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oh yeah, survival... forgot about being a standalone part... i will have to check it out when i get home

Backwards compatibility was expected tbh. However I think we should still be able to play Arcade games ... I'm not really keen on this paying again for a 2nd hand game.

My main worry with that is, what if you Xbla games which get delisted for whatever reason (they goes bust or lose the license) what if you cannot get a code for retail

games where this happens in the future?

Backwards compatibility was not* expected ...

I really wish someone would come up with a way for consumers to purchase IPs, so I don't have re-buy pac-man for eternity #itllneverhappen

I really like it, and the pre owned thing was expected after ea said there not doing passes anymore

Generic grumpy old man for me, reasoning: 1)Grumpy Old Men was an excellent movie. 2)"Oooo-shiny" Now deems quality. 3)Don't need it.

People are dropping unfinalized opinions. E3 will be the decider.

My point is groupthink is ugly and dangerous in other circumstances. If you're not into the One, that's cool. But don't just hate it to come off as a hipster or something

Yes, the reason people dislike the One is to become a Hipster? The validity of arguments regarding the One for positive are just as filled with holes as the negative.

I have a proper device for apps, i.e. an iPad. That is all.

So do I but nobody is making you use the apps I would rather watch on my 50 inch tv than a little handheld screen

At least you have this option, buddy. People like us don't even have that option on the new xbox.

The new achievement will destroy all hope.

Oh, yeah!!

Thanks!

Moving on up! Congrats!

Thank you!

Mandatory installs, no backwards compatibility... it just keeps getting better!

I didn't see this..did i fall asleep at the point they mentioned it? lol

They didn't mention it at the event, and I actually haven't seen that posted anywhere. Haven't been looking though.

Well, see you Microsoft and hello Sony.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/05/xbox-one-analysis/

Uhm, am I misreading this? They clearly ask the question in the article and state "This is something gamers want to know" with no answer.

Granted, I just started skimming, but a ctrl+f for "used" just got me that line and a lot of whining in the comments. :)

Do those pre-owned fees go to the game developers? If so, then I think it's great. If MS keeps the fees then they're no better than second hand game retailers

BTW, good to see you back, rayner!

Here is a discussion on it, http://neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=560478

I haven't seen anything yet or read anything yet, (other than the comments I'm reading on here).. and yeah.. I can tell this is not good. lol

btw good to see you back rayner :)

Calm down about those used game fees: http://aol.it/10MFBzv

Ah, but is that digital selling of games? If so, I still can't do it with my brother because he doesn't have internet. Also, what about shared consoles?

Holy crap! What the hell is this shit! http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825

So the activation fee for a new game will be just like buying a new game... but there will be a way to sell your games online? Gamestop is doomed...

And Gamefly. Well, probably not since NO ONE I know wants an Xbox One now. Considering that there is no real games announced for it, and XB1 is doomed.

And yeah, I'm not getting it. I like sharing games with my Bro, so we for sure can't get it. He doesn't have internet, and I don't support anti-consumer practices.

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse: http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-does-require-internet-connection-cant-play-o-509164109

And I thought they couldn't screw me and my brother any more than they already have......

What the hell is this shit. Why Microsoft

And its not just a fee as I understand it You pay the full price the marketplace tells you. Not just absurd This is madness

I'm staying with xbox360.

I understand ppl being upset about the used game situation, but can ppl really not understand why this is happening?

I'm not trying to be abrasive or a jerk here, I really wanna know if ppl do not understand this because it's blowing my mind lol.

You can't stop people from buying used. Society and economies are set-up for used sales in every facet of industry. When you take away the people's choice you will fail

Consoles are made for the gamers not for the developers. Microsoft is trying to appease all their developers at the expense of their customers. It's their right but...

The d-pad has been fixed for a long while with the transforming ones, I think.

Nope, they were terrible, even worse.

I disagree, though I never use the saucer configuration. The raised d-pad made a huge difference.

For fighting games it was utter crap.

And more fragile than original sucky d-pad.

How so? I've had no problem with mine at all.

My Gears 3 Dpad broke, and is malfunctioning, and from a video game store they have several returns of transforming d-pads controllers.

From one friend "I had to return 3 controllers in the first couple of days until I got this one that so far is lasting more than a month."

I'm pretty sure the solution is to just not play fighting games.

^sure

I have to agree with FOKEN, The actuation point is too large and i've had 7 snap whilst playing.

i found the chrome D pads to be the worse of the lot.

If I can plant grenades on the dog and use it as a mobile remote detonating bomb then I'll actually play the next COD.

That looked awesome

Meh, they did horse motion capturing in Onimusha over a decade ago.

^ this

I guess I need to be clearer when I'm being a smartass.

Naw I knew you were being sarcastic after all, they modeled the dog after a REAL SEAL TEAM SIX DOG! Great way to spend money!

Hahaha!

yeah I thought people did that in college

I hope they do not put too many chevo with kinect!!

Hopefully they won't mess that whole thing up too bad.

Ugh, I have a bad feeling they're going to make it impossible to get a full score & sell the game...

Or get the full score 2 years after release.

They want to make it impossible to sell the game.

I hope every game ends with the number 1 just to mess with weird people like 64 did..

Halo One!!! I predict PS4 leads the next generation due to lack of brand confusion!

Halo the Live Action Television series! ugh.

Developer will be like... "Announcing Gears of Wars ONE! Oh wait, we already made that".

Get ready for third parties to do this too. Assassin's Creed One, The Elder Scrolls One, Final Fantasy One.......oh my god gen 8 is going to suck!

Technically all of you are wrong, none of those games were ever called One when they were made...I used to always have this argument with my bro about Sonic and MK

^

Well MS never were the best in that Reminds me of Win 3.11, Win95 Vista Win7 and so on Now they re making every year console updates starting with ONE

I'm staying with xbox360.

Looks like Jeff Gerstman sort of called it on the name.

I do like the way it looks

this instant switching thing looks pretty cool

I think they could have had a better choice then the price is right when it wanted to watch tv. At least he has deadmaus for music though.

Yeah...it's like we're living in the future...man....

From Jeff Gerstman "I've been waiting to say "Xbox, Show Fantasy" my entire life, but fantasy sports wasn't what I had in mind."

HA!

im at the point if its alwys online i might still get it... im drooling over it with the instant switching

UFC game looks great!

and a bluray finally

XBOXONE? Guess I will call it XBONE for short :D

I just want the new Xbox to be faster on XBL and not make a noise like a washing machine whenever I put a disc in (and yes I have a new slim and it's as noisy as ever).

My slim is quiet as a purring cat. Try removing yours from atop your washing machine.

Giant enemy crab?

XD I won't forget that game.

The new Xbox is already outdated as it will not support ULTRA HD TV'S.... unless they add a patch to upconvert.....which is still a fail anyway.

Ultra HD TV's? ... i have no idea what they even are? I like to think i'm generally ontop of technology as well, clearly i'm not. Regardless, seem pointless.

Until ultra he is more commonplace ita wasted resources

in 3-4 years Ultra will outnumber normal HDTV....and the Xbox one will have 5-7 years left.....hence my point.

^this