DrCanadianNinja228,340 (120,050)

Great news, it finally shipped *throw a book at the Capcom store* . SHIPPED. UGH>>......

You have fucked up now, you have fucked up. I told you it'd be early or late. NO ON TIME DERIVERIES.

Why the eff did you order from the Capcom Store, should have ordered from other retailers instead. :3

umbrella umbrella + gamestop preorders bonus also at CS. Took a risk, if heads, play it early. if tails, finish the games Im working on.

i, for one, welcome our new-game-only overlords.

*I

From what I read, he's confirmed that there is a fee, and each one is licensed to a profile. You can trade it in, but you pay a fee.

I've stopped trading in games for what they offer, so it won't affect me much. However, there are people who rely on this to buy new games. Disappointing.

Did you read about the potential to have constant achievement additions? Kinda scared about seasonal achievements or achievements based on memes, etc.

For this I am glad I am not a completionist.

Used Game Market has no chance to survive make your time.

/rimshot

I mean HOW ARE YOU ALWAYS-ON

Evolution of an industry? That's never happened before! Madness I say!

Bah, I couldn't tell at first if you were taking the piss out of me or not. Damn you, cold and unfeeling internet!

Hahaha, it's refreshing to see that some people are aware of how things have changed. Honestly frustrated with some stuff I'm reading. Nothing here, though.

Nah, I was taking the piss out of everybody else who thinks this next console is pure heathenism or something.

I blame being at work. Either way, I'm interested to see where it goes from here; hoping the new power isn't just wasted on shinier graphics.

Xbox One is not backward compatible with Xbox 360 games.

Because of dynamic achievements, i.e. devs being able to add them at any time w/o DLC, including for one-off events. Along w/everything else that makes me avoid the 1.

Ohhhhh. Yeah I heard about that, as long as they plan on giving a good notice I'm not too worried. Who gives a shit about backwards compatibility? Random lol.

The BC thing also applies to XBL titles, apparently.

let's see how that dynamic shit works out

Let's see how many devs use it. There's currently the ability to say "you need to buy this other game for this achievement" but I can only think of a handful who have.

EA, obviously, given their "strategic partnership" w/MS. I'm guessing Activision will use it as well. WB? Maybe.

Gears of War 2 gave you a few achievements that were associated with a DLC, but only the top rank I believe required the DLC itself.

BC isn't as simple as them saying "We just don't feel like it". There are complications that most people complaining wouldn't even begin to understand.

If it can't be simplified, we'll just butcher it until it IS simple! WE NEED BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY

Yay domain change: www.truedynamicachievements.com

Only disappointment for me was the 15 minutes all for COD. -_-

More of an all-around presentation. Most of us are only concerned about the gaming aspect of the Xbox One and they are letting the game developers "wow" us at E3.

Used game fee = no go. I hope they fail MISERABLY at launch so that after a while they nix the used game fee. Then I MIGHT come back.

True, but in comparing both these next gen conferences. Sony had a stronger conference I think. This Xbox one conference sucked

Sony definitely had a stronger reveal than M$oft as far as the games went. This conference offered very little if you aren't interested in additional features.

Xbox One? Lmao! Still can't get over that 1.

Spaceship one activate!

They didn't need to show a lot of games. Why waste the time now, when they're going to be showing everything in less then 3 weeks at E3?

Hey, you're preaching to the choir. I would rather wait until then and get good looks at each of the games rather than a crammed display in an hour.

I think they did a great job with the reveal showing different aspects. Can't wait to E3 and the more indepth QnA/FAQs

Should have been named Xbox neo if they wanted to be the One

15 exclusives in first year. So Forza, Gears, Halo and 12 kinect games. Oh yeah, i'll be there on launch to pick one up.

I said a vast majority would be shooters for the lulz. I'm not surprised you're trying to tear it down before you hear anything though, Lou.

I still hope for the best. And reserving judgement til E3. But people who jock this shit so hard just bcuz they love their gamerscore lolz so much are fucking retards.

Microsoft didnt even show specs for the next machine. Probably because it wasn't impressive.

well they say 8 of the exclusives are new and one of them was the Remedy game so it gives me hope

At least they showed it; Sony didn't even have a mock up...

Right, because that's important. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV3kAmvbZmU

I didn't expect anything gaming, to see things on the sports titles and even Cod was surprising. Start the new countdown!

confirm the "always on" rumor. Which could make every game susceptible to "server outages". =/

these are the people that expect the iphone to be dedicated to music.

a lot of the services will be tied to the cloud. this is a surprise? doesn't mean it won't play games/dvds/bds without a connection.

^this. I do understand people not liking that those things weren't addressed, but they weren't going to talk about that now.

@Beavis: No doubt, but it also doesn't say that it will either. MS is aware the rumor is going around and didn't say anything. So they are either hiding it or just daft.

exactly. this was an introduction and i think a pretty good one.

@Matrarch: True and it's their show, so they can do what they want. However if they are trying to excite me in to wanting the console this early, they have failed.

dude, they aren't going to devote their intro to debunking rumors. what kind of sales pitch would that be?

Also, I keep saying this, we're not the target audience. Gamers will buy a gaming console. This conference was about attracting new eyes and getting a pop.

They really don't need to show games to prove it plays them. We know it's going to do that.

well, i am just shocked that they didn't go into these dynamic achievements and how they would be affected by server closures.

You're right, there's no reason for them to talk about backwards compatibility, LIVE service improvements or changes, and if the console needs Internet to function...

none of that will be important to a someone buying their first console. I wasn't impressed, you were, great... I'm not trying to convince you to be unimpressed.

Tried saying the same thing...after saying it twenty five times, I have up.

And they made an announcement : http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-doesnt-require-internet-connection

because those are not core features. they talked about 4 or 5 major selling points and left it at that. you leave them wanting more, not bore them to death with details

Matarachie, funny you should say that. I was on my way to the fridge to get get me a cold pop. It appears I missed something. Dayum!

I'm not saying that they shouldn't talk about that stuff, I'm just saying I'm not at all surprised they didn't. I didn't see the show, so I really have no opinion either

way. We will get all this information, I'm just not surprised it wasn't in the context of this conference.

I get where the industry is right now, you know I do, I can't help but know, but from where 'I is' playing my games from right now, I need that core-goodness in my life.

The primary focus was "One" the convienince store of gaming, or the Costco of consoles, whatever you prefer.

It's not about the lack of games it was about the evasive marketing standpoint they took. Xbox LIVE TV with paid subscrition required from your provider, or...

how they flashed by the tech. The new tech is essentially the same as a "low-end" gaming PC. The highlight was EA and MS are now having children together.

did all of those channels they showed require a digital cable subscription? did anyone catch if xbox live will be offering some sort of service?

Gaming consoles have pretty much always had low end gaming PC Tech. It's dedicated hardware, so they can do that.

The backwards compatibility thing being what it is, I'll be waiting on this. Still looking forward to what they bring to E3, though!

When they announced it, the presenter stated that he was: "A Comcast subscriber" and this is what he has for live TV...if that is any indication :)

oh, well that at's a little disappointing.

I liked it. I don't really care about backwards compatibility and I always buy my games new (not necessarily straight away). I think they have a sale with me ;)

Highlights of the show in less than 2 minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw