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Always Online while at home. But what about when we do HERBIE 2? How can we do offline strategery? What about traveling?

Just look at the past couple weeks where people have had problems connecting to XBL. At least now you can still play. Next year, you won't even be able to do that.

Or those times when a game is patched to remove an exploit or patched to increase the difficulty on something? You can't play it pre-patch anymore.

or worse yet... what about patches that break the game? I can think of a few that deleted save files... no more getting the news out and playing offline until it's fixed.

Which is not exactly what he said, and completely conflicting Major Nelson's statement of anyone on first machine, you on all machines.

Adam Sessler's question was if the game was tied only to that machine, and you had to play to play on a second. Not if anyone on said machine could play it.

Don't know why anyone trusts Major Nelson anyway, he was one of the ones stating when the HDMI 360 was rumored that "we wouldn't do that to our installed base" which...

as it turned out and a week after I bought a replacement 360 turned out to be complete bullshit.

He specifically asked Hardware or Profile, and it was stated Profile. Anyone can play it in your household on your profile. But not anyone on your hardware.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/22/4354646/xbox-live-gold-memberships-apply-to-both-xbox-one-and-360

Account and profile have new meanings now. I am curious what the multiple devices will work in this scenario.

For the TL:DR crowd, all Live Accounts will be family plans, with each gamertag a profile. DRM is attached to account.

Interstetting. I wonder how difficult it will be to merge accounts then going forward for those of us with multi-gold households.

Would it be possible for Toddy, Mummy, Hobbs, and the Green ninja all live in the same household?

As long as the wives and daughters were excluded... Yes.

...interesting Futiles... and yeah wondering as well, especially since Win8 logons are tied to your MS account as well...

Well, with the new lexicography, Win8 are tied to you MS account and your Live Profile. Which is then associated to a LIVE account.

How about just X...... So awesome haha

They should just add a rental option problem solve rent the rights for a week!

If they work it out with Gamefly, then I won't care and I'll be back to singing praise.

They don't need to they can have every game.on there service and instead of charging for a buy charge for a week of playing a game, shit you know how much money I would..

Spend if shit was like that!?!?! I Embrace the change just needs some tweeking like does anything and everything on the first go. Still hate the name though.

Still better than 720

totally understandable, I know you love gamefly, but there's no point in panicking already, still a lot of unanswered questions for both the X1 and the PS4. Might end up

with the PC continuing to be the best gaming device for people that want to play games first and foremost

Buying used games from Gamstop is gone and no rentals based on everything I am seeing. To me still a dealbreaker.

I am not a fan of this "cloud" they speak of, which, is not a cloud. It's creating a dumb terminal system with consoles. Nobody is sharing resources to improve things.

Even if they add all these new servers they're planning on adding, the "cloud" is still likely to be unreliable as it is now. It's more of a pipedream than something

we can actually use. nothing I've tried using the 'cloud' currently has worked well. I'll pass

I bet the whole no used game idea came from EA and they told M$ to implement it or they won't support X1 just like on the original Xbox

I agree. The cloud is still too unreliable.

http://youtu.be/Y508_rXPogQ

gamers shit their pants when Sony actually confirms the exact same policies that the XO is going to have. Nothing like going to the unknown because it's currently better.

I'm in the retire boat. Have more productive things I could/should be doing with life than gaming anyway.

I love you Dacoto. At least MS had the balls to show their damn console. I still don't understand how you announce a console and don't show it.

In Sony's defense, that was a pretty cool controller.

Sell your GameStop stock now, when Sony declares war on the used game model it will be the nail in GameStop's coffin

It's quite strange everyone is complaining about the stuff MS hasn't officially announced...

I heard it causes penis cancer

Just the fact that Kinect is required is enough to make me jump ship, just the fact they're not allowing indie development is enough..

the bullshit "not always, but always-on if developers use it for cloud computing" was the same bullshit answer EA gave for Sim City, enough

the used game thing doesn't bother me as much as others, as unless I can't find a copy I usually buy new, on release. But it's bullshit that with it being a family..

..investment that the family wouldn't be able to play. They have a working physical DRM model that doesn't use account linking, it's called a disk check.

The no backwards compatibility part on both consoles is shitty, but completely understandable being that they use completely different architecture.

and yes, I understand that installed games give license to the installed console, so people playing on the same console could use the installed game...

..but we like a bunch of households are multi-box houses.

Well Kinect ISN'T required, it just comes with the Xbox. It is down to you if you use it. The always on thing is not confirmed (even the every 24 hours) that is just 1

scenario. The family CAN play. Look at the recent TA article.

the kinect IS required for the system to run http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-requires-kinect-to-function-509112572 you can chose to play games that use it, but it's required.

Yeah, licencing will be the same as it is now. Where the GT and the console have rights. The fact that they're baking DRM into each disc angers me. The way they are still

keeping the Indie Devs down also bothers me. I don't care about the Kinect requirement as I have one. The "Always Online" not really but yeah really also bothers me.

Dynamic Achievement Lists are also stupid. I also hate community event achievements that you can't get if you miss the event. I refuse to play games that have them.

And now they want every game to have them. It's like they are trying to piss off completionists.

I want a Kinect but a camera and mic on you without being able to monitor the output bothers me, I mean I have cams and mics... but if they aren't in use theyre unplugged

Chunkeh, look at the TA article again, the family can play but it mentions using the SAME box. Different boxes require the activation fee.

Yeah, I read that, what I didn't see was Cormyre's comment above mine about multi boxes. I'm hoping they will do something similar to windows 8... x amount of boxes can

Be authorised, but I'm not holding my breath