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Even though I am not a jumper, I can honestly say the ony game I regret not being multiplat is The Order. I like steampunk and it's got potential.

I'm jumping for personal reasons, but the Xbox One has a better lineup right now (Titanfall, Dead Rising 3 in particular). Ryse could be good as well.

That said, I personally found MS had the strongest lineup by far, exclusive wise.

Yeah, Dog - I totally get other reasons. :) I just thought for all the screaming about "One doesn't have games!111!!!!", Sony didn't exactly have many as it turns out.

Not to say they won't announce more or don't have things up their collective sleeves, just looking at what we know.

They didn't show any that I'm aware of but most of their exclusive RPS are that Koei loves Sony more than MS

Might be enough for me to jump ship at first. May just get both at launch though

Oops, meant RPG's not RPS.

The Order REALLY looks cool (not jumping, btw!) but I thought Titanfall was gonna be multiplatform for some reason...

^ Titanfall will come to PC as well as X1. M - care less about launch exclusives than about personal rights. The Order 1886, Infamous, Killzone, Warframe, and Planetside

2 are all games I'm interested in for launch of PS4. As well as Drive Club, which will launch FREE for Plus subscribers.

We'll see how it shakes out, of course, but if I have my personal rights, but no games I want to play, then what benefit is it? I'll take up watching TV. :)

$59.99 launch game, "Here, thanks for being a Plus customer. No seriously, THANK YOU. Here, have a $59.99 game, on the house."

As I said, I wasn't really paying attention. What is Drive Club? Will that stay with you if your PSN Plus isn't renewed or is it like the other plus titles?

I forgot to mention Transistor. They're the ones behind Bastion. Man Bastion was great...

And finally, Consumer Rights are available on the PS4 and not on the X1 :P sorry, I couldn't resist XD

Ah, that's a good one. People were digging it at PAX. I still haven't played Bastion beyond the Bean Dive, though!

The right you are talking about Mr. Enz, is whether or not to check the box to agree to a particular companies policies. Agree or don't. That's your right.

Sorry Boots, I wasn't meaning to start a discussion with that jab. I shouldn't have written it.

*company's... Once you've agreed to them, they can do what they want, and if they met the terms of the agreement, they won't have imposed on your rights.

It's all good Shadow. =) I'm just tired of people talking about personal rights. This isn't Myanmar, it's video games!

It's ok, Orion, really!

Wait, I signed up for Myanmar....what the hell's going on here?

I'll probably jump before it's over. As a previous PS 1/2 fanatic, having the entire PS catalog available to me via Cloud streaming is very appealing.

I also despise the Kinect and don't like feeling forced to attach everything I own to an MS system.

^have you ever....tried the Kinect? Why would anyone despise it?

PS4 is really going to have the entire PS1/2 catalog?

for a fee... So all the games I own in hard copy I can pay for again and restart my trophy / completion obsession from 0. Its so awesome... Why aren't you all over it?

Complete with down EA servers so I still won't be able to play Madden 10 online with anyone... But Sony lets me hand a disc to my friend and vaguley glosses over what

policies their developers will have in place to what usage it can have so its like totally better and different. Its a car with 4 circles but they aren't called tires...

I despise one thing and one thing only. Gefilte fish. And I've never tried it.

Kingdom Hearts 3. Oh wait...

For me it's all about the mandatory Kinect. I hate that they're jamming that thing down my throat. Also, the PS4 may not have many exclusives at launch but the exclusives

I'm not a jumper, I just plan on getting both. 99% of the current and announced exclusives intrigue me for the PS side. Plus, a great catalogue of older games to download

for M$ looked like ass to me. Ryse seemed like one endless series of QTEs and Titanfall didn't impress either. I thought DR3 kind of looked cool but then I read about the

Kinect and Smartglass integration and that ruined it for me. Plus I feel that achievements have ruined gaming, completely killed Gears and Borderlands for me.

Will be nice to move away from that.

I will like to play the uncharted series once the jump has been made.

I guess the platoon will have some vacancies... interested people please submit your applications...

Hey...dude with the totally original Rockstar gamer pick. Perhaps you are using it wrong, but I've never had to jam my Kinect down my throat to get it to work.

@ Ell - of course I've tried the Kinect; I have one. I've tried it under the tv, under the tv on a stack of books, on top of the tv - everything but the wall mount, and

It just doesn't work well. More than that, however, I hate being required to buy an accessory that I don't want. As someone mentioned earlier, I don't like anything

Crammed down my throat.

I totally understand. When I bought my 360 it came with those red/white/yellow AV cables, but I already had an HDMI cable. So I'm like WTF Microsoft? Why are you

cramming this garbage down my throat. Now they sit in a box, a constant reminder of corporate greed. Needless to say I'm switching to a PS4.

Cough, this was started with a loaded question, cough.

And I thought Ell started all the shit around here...

What about those plastic wrappers Mitotic, i guess im switching from packaged goods to... well, who am i kidding , we dont have that in mexico...

I wasn't trying to start anything... No need to make fun, Mitotic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNQRqAoT-2c This is way too many people on this site.

Things like this bring out the worst in people, I'm not a fan of it. Personally I have so much of a backlog on the 360 it'll hold me over as far as Microsoft goes.

Sony had a ton of RPG's last gen that we didn't, including the tales series. It's more about what will come out than what's been announced for me.

the game i am really wishing was on xbox is a current gen game. the last of us. i think exclusives suck.

Kingdom Hearts would have been my pick, but it isn't exclusive. So absolutely nothing, which is why I won't make the jump personally. MS has the better exclusives.

Lots of rabble rabble in this discussion. be proud of yourselves. Guess I'll have to write an unbiased blog post about exclusives and launch lineup...

Cause you are not biased AT ALL.

Sounds like you came in here expecting everyone to agree with you thar Sony is awesome or to jump ship after your ads comments.

you are obviously free to pick the console suiting you best but so are we. Acting like you are the only one with a worthy opinion is a good way to come of as an ass.

I expect nothing from people, silly. The only bias I can hold are the conclusions I come to based on the information presented to me. If I choose to not purchase a consol

e, there better be good reasons for it, because I've purchased every console ever since console generations began. It's not an easy decision.

I don't think I devalue anyone's opinions unless they are crying and pleading trying to stop other people from making their own decisions. Otherwise, someone's choice

doesn't bother me. What bothers me is when people get attacked for making the choices they do, made to feel guilty for "abandoning" or "cheating" against the spouse we've

all apparently married here. That's not cool. People ask me for info, I provide it. People provide false info, I correct it. Nothing more. M is really an important person

to me, and you think her decision to get an X1 affects me in any way? Outta your mind if so. I'm ecstatic for her that she'll be enjoying gaming for yet another generatio

n in her life!

Now if she was to start fighting and hating people for not joining her x1 family, I'd say something about it, but she's not an idiot.

In fact she's one of the smartest, warmest most creative people I've ever had the pleasure of getting to know on TA.

It wasthe part about the rabble that got me ticked off honestly. You are makng an informes decision on what is obviously the console you think is best for you.

I don't think anyone was bashing the people that will pick Sony. Heck I have owned a ps3- maybe later on I'll get a 4.

Frankly I am tired of people trying to change my mind over it and acting like owning both is some kind of big betrayal.

And also of the people switching to ps4 and treating everyone else sticking with MS like idiots.

I can't stand those guys either. Why shit on people? If you want to "help" gaming, or "help" gamers by trying to educate them about the importance of what PS4, or rather,

NOT supporting an X1 will do for gaming in general, you're not going to accomplish it by treating people like morons for buying an X1. That just makes you an ass. Can't

stand those people. Intolerance is one of the dumbest things a person can exercise.

I'm sick of the people trying to convince me to stick with the X1 and saying I'm an idiot for not understanding what MS is doing. Stupidity knows no console boundaries.

Sorry you gotta deal with that, Dog. You're definitely not an idiot, no matter what choice you make.

At the end of the day you buy the console that suits your needs best Dog. As most of us will.

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As it's time based, I'd think it will eventually be a 'challenge', but the current platform doesn't allow for that. Purely a guess, but as it's worth 0g and is time

restricted, it appears to fall in their definition of "challenge".

HAHAHA, no more EA online based achievements since "anytime" means anytime even after they shutdown a server... Now make that crap retroactive...

I hope there's a way to distinguish between Achievements and challenges...otherwise TA could get messy really fast!

Spazpol, online based achievements going away, even for EA. Officially, companies aren't allowed achievements that are broken at release. We all know that's enforced...

As for your link Matrarch -- it came from Major Nelson, so I'm inclined to say every piece of information there is wrong.

My sources on the street informed me that haters are, in fact, going to hate. I'm pretty inclined to believe them. Now, back to M in the studio.

I like the way you think, Spazpol. I posted a comment about that. Go up vote it!

http://t.co/LEE0UuBNP3

@DaveKinetic only achievements will offer gamerscore. The challenges might not be tracked by TA.

Achievements are achievements. Just because they are worth 0GS doesn't mean we don't want them, especially if you are a completionist/OCD/masochist/sadist/Spazpollover

Plus Sony spent more time trolling Microsoft which is always good...

Agreed. Couldn't wait until November for the X1. Now November can't get here fast enough for both!

Truth. I wasn't bothered much by X1's issues, but a gaming console is like an old telephone. Useless when you're the only one that has it.

And in this case, virtually all my friends are jumping ship, and since the games I was eyeing up were multiplatform, why stay here?

2 Titles I liked on the X1 conference, Titanfall and Killer Instinct. I'll be getting TF on PC when it releases, for sure. I love me some mechs.

I'm actually glad to see the amount of Indie devs that previously made 360 exclusive games pursue new IPs on PS4.

I wanted to like Ryse though, but it looked repetitive and full of QTEs. Halo, well, can't really say nothing because I haven't even played Halo 4.

I was really surprised I saw nothing of Fallout in X1. I thought they had it in the bag, expecting a Fallout game.

I'm a mark for some companies that are essentially MS exclusive, like Twisted Pixel, Remedy and Harmonix. Their presence has a lot to do with my feelings on MS' line up.

I think it's still too soon for Fallout. Skyrim's cycle has pretty much just ended.

But it's like MS is making all the mistakes Sony made last time. $100 more, DRM issues... did they think this through?

Fallout has been hinted to quite a bit. We were expecting that to make some sort of appearance. Not that it'd make a difference to me either way.

Crackdown 3. Microsoft needs it.

I think Microsoft just looked at how they dominated the console war this generation, and decided that no matter what they do, they'll keep the lead.

Sony on the other hand, knew they needed to pull something special as the money they lost on the PS3 pretty much crippled them, and they've had to slash the price

more times than any console I can remember. A cheaper console without any of the annoying "features" is a much easier way to get the core demographic on board.

Idk. Game offerings were far stronger from MS. But they really have no defense for their bullshit. I'm torn. Very torn.

Callum - PS3 is leading Microsoft in worldwide hardware penetration. Dunno if you knew that.

/\ Where's that figure from? Every industry site I goes to recognizes that Nintendo basically won this gen, with the 360 in second and the PS3 a distant third.

Nintendo did win the gen, blowing Sony and MS out of the water with well over 100m units while PS3 and XBox sit around 77m, with PS3 in the lead between the two. XBox has

about a 1.8x lead in the united states, but lacking in the rest of the world.

If you want public source for stats, you can check out sites like http://www.vgchartz.com/

Nevermind, that 1.8 lead in N America is now about a 1.3 (1.2xxx), narrower than I remember last seeing figures.

I pre-ordered my xbox one. dont care about lending games to friends, as i never get those games back. I might get a ps4... and beyond two souls will give my ps3

a reason to stop collecting dust.

Nintendo won... But I don't think either they nor we see them as exact competitors. Different types of consumers.

Once upon a time the 3 were head-to-head, but Nintendo is more casual now.

See, THAT's why I was kinda speechless when I jumped in the party yesterday... You don't see a cheering crowd at E3 often! ;) We'll see over time what happens...

Me. You should be paying attention to me.

Are you half way through cooking something?

Listening for crows?

I have a puppy...he needed to outside and I blew off a half hour of the conference....

Selling your stuff quick!

I had to listen to gate change announcements.