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You're right. I have 245 games on my completed list, but it only reads 243. :-(

Complain here: http://www.trueachievements.com/forum/viewthread.aspx?threadid=3637061&anchor=3644350#m3644350

Okay, it corrects on your next scan. I forced and lost Labs from the list. Cant say I mind really though.

Why are we complaining about this? We didn't really do anything to 'earn' these - they were just gimmicks to compel us to do something.

I mean, it's just not like.. you really achieved something? I dunno.

A lot of achievements don't have to be earned.

I'm not complaining. I was just glad I found out what lowered my completed games because it was bugging the hell out of me not knowing what was wrong.

So the Press Start achievement shouldn't count?

The achievement in the context of the whole game, sure. A single achievement for buying a pre-order counting as a completion? Seems like inflation.

Here's the thing, this is a challenge, right? so people want it now, because they're losing a completion.

Well, what if the "challenges" permanently attach to a game list? So you complete Halo 5's achievements, but not its challenges

The way TA counts things, you'd lose a completion due to that. I really think that's the thinking behind the change.

Voice studio needs to be taken as well. No idea how it works but would Quake II be taken too due to the 0GS or is it worked out another way?

Voice studio actually has score attached to it though, so that's a different issue. Same with press start, I think. Not so sure about Quake.

Quake II is an actual game though. It just has 0 gamerscore. Therefor it should count as a completion IMO.

I agree. I think that we're heading into murky territory with the challenges business again.

Everyone wants that MS store completion NOW, but when they had one for pre-ordering a game you don't want, people will be screaming it shouldn't count.

So is Xbox Live Labs. It is a waiting game like idle boosting in Gears 3. Microsoft Store is a game too. I pretend to pre-order the new console and then cancel.

Or one for actually completing a purchase.

So, Dark. If they add an achievement for completing a purchase of a game that you don't want, do you still want this to count as a game?

If it's on Xbox.com then I wouldn't like it but I would want it to count as a game.

My point (yeah, I posted about it already): if popping all of the achievements in a game can be disallowed as a completion, then what about

games with unobtainables, like EndWar, that won't pop?

It just feels arbitrary. I worked a lot harder to "finish" EndWar to the best that anyone can actually do, but I can't put that in my trophy case.

Either one or the other. If the title has achievements, for whatever reason, then it should count. It's a matter of consistency, just like the ratio argument.

But if MS are separating the two, why does it matter if TA does? And my bad on Voice Studio, thought it was 0GS

Change should be allowed. The system is evolving and so should we. I'd rather not have apps count as games personally.

Better that the precedent is set now and not when people lose 30 "completions" at once.

kind of shit will kill you. I've already lost my main character, I'll be damned if I lose another community member. Also is there any news on a multiplayer feature to be

coming soon at all?

I kinda hope not. I'd also like to see the game continue after the "end."

Why not? I'm not saying a big multiplayer feature, but just two friends surviving and scavenging together for the same community.

Co-op would be fantastic in this game. It's a possibility they'll add it but don't hold your breath.

To me, it heightens the isolation and fear.

Wow I really need to get this game.

Good point, but man, the ability to explore houses and scavenge would be sweet! Plus it would still be scary if both players started getting

Attacked by hordes and ferals :P

I'm scared enough as it is on my own. Having a partner to talk to and coordinate with while scavenging and watching each others back is my dream right now.

Yes Buckwheat you need this game A.S.A.P.

James, you're my designated co-op partner if multiplayer is released.

I'm doing a lone survivor playthrough right now, unfortunately you can't seem to have Lily die which sucks!!

Otherwise my population would actually be 1 Apparently some guy on GameFAQs had another survivor shoot her out of rage,

It seems to be a glitch tho. Wish I could replicate it!!

Can you do that? I guess you wouldn't have to ration so much and you could hoard everything for yourself. You tingy survivor you.

*Stingy*

Yup, people eventually go missing if you have too many infestations (there's a glitch right now that causes this to happen if there's even one

Infestation on the whole map, they're patching it soon). And when people have morale issues, you can just kick them out!

So I have like 12 people in my menu still, but everyone but me and Lily are "missing". Missing people eventually die too.

With strategically placed outposts, hordes NEVER get to my base so I don't have to worry about not having people to defend it.

think im gonna wait for a patch before i start it then.

think i'm gonna wait until its cheaper lol

Yeah that's what i've heard, oh well down the track i'll pick it up.

Exactly what I anticipated, still cant wait to play it. How are the achievements?

Achievements aren't too bad. You can start a new game plus which makes them easier. I just have to actually get around to starting a new campaign.

Just came in the mail today along w/the comic book. Wish Gamestop would've put a backer board or something in it. Gonna finish ME3 DLC first tho.