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4. Not being able to play old xbox games on new console (Will more likely be a fact)

First 3 things are very important for me that they go my way.

5.. if they release it with forza motorsport 5 included in the box :P

no achievements would be my least concern from your list! Then we`d be back to the true roots of gaming...

1. Achievements are too profitable, that is clear from how they have been increasing the amount aloud. 2. It is impossible to do. We are years off until everyone has a

connection possible of handling this. 3. Always online will not happen. According to Microsoft upto 40% of xbox users are offline online gamers. They would not cut their

potential sales by that much. 4 is most likely certain. Only certain games could be played on the 360 from the original xbox. Doubt they will bother with backwards

compatibility although saying that I think the marketplace games will still work. So might be wrong on the retail games.

When there were no achievements i always wanted something like that and its the reason i only play xbox. So to say true roots of gaming. I have to dissagree but understan

understand what you meant by that. But people look at gaming different and for me the most fun is that games has achievements even thou it is contradicting at times.

For example forza 3 that is just a boring game and i play anyway to complete it but that is what i like to do even thou it is not that fun to play that game. Everyone

look at their gaming different. So if no achievements i would not get the new xbox. :)

Sounds great dropkick! :) Hope you are right!

(ANd there would be no gamerscore competitions like gtasc wich would be so boring, i really like those things). :)

hahahahahaha just now i saw your comment smurf! Its ok if it also includes a lifetime of twist candy as well. Oh my, Forza 5 would be worse than stormrise 2. lol Puke!!

3 & 4 are my problems but MORE kinect will also be an issue for me, I dont mind it but improve kinect playability for other games. (using FORZA as an example here)

There will be achievements but will there be backwards compatibility? ALWAYS online will ruin so many things for me!! :(

We will do some co-op soon in Ms. Splosion Man Jessie, let me know when ur free

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