Theo Boots233,358 (141,475)

When I played Tinker on PC, once I had initially installed & logged into Games for Windows Live, my profile would auto login without any issues.

Play 360 at home & PC at work. I hope its as easy as this with X1.

MaseJ is right - you do not need to add to a USB stick, just log in and out as you please provided that you are connected to xbox live. Everything updates automatically

As for XB1, dashboard update is coming late August or early Sept (region dependent) that will prepare x360/GFWL for xb1 allignment

Ok...Thanks guys.

First time you will need to download your profile (you will need your email and password) and it will keep saying you were last signed in on another console

but gamer pic, achievements, cloud saves (if enabled) etc will all sync automatically within about 2-3 seconds of signing in

Consoles are a bit different than PC, so it wouldn't work the exact same way, but if you put your profile on the cloud you could easily move from 360 to X1.

I have done the thing Masej is speaking of and it's true, but on the console you need to have the profile on the one you're going to play it with.

I have 2 xboxes and a PC, it works... trust me

It would only work over the cloud with two consoles. Otherwise you need a USB, or would have to download/recover it each time.

No, you are wrong. I have cloud disabled on mine (got annoyed with games always asking which to save to) and it works fine. You only need to download once

Unless one of your xboxes isn't connected to the internet? In that case you are right and you will need a USB to log in.

Lol? You can't have one copy of your profile on each console. If you do that and slip up without connecting to LIVE you can lose progress. That's happened to me before.

I use the USB method, but cloud is just as good, and yes your right about not connecting to LIVE with one of them...

Ah, that is where the confusing came about then - both my consoles are connected so I can jump between both without needing to redownlaod the profile.

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If it was this easy to get rid of it, it's just as easy to put it back in in six months. Still got the PS4 preordered. Waiting until second price drop + no kinect.

Lucky I thought most people that were doing that were a little premature given the amount of time that both sides can reveal their cards.

@Rhy The kinect won't go it is a part of the technology and yeah they may be too little late as most Aussies jumped to the PS4/PS3.

While you were sleeping. Some of us were looking at Internet porn. I was also sleeping .

Rhyolitic - Ha! What an excellent point you've made.

If Kinect is still required 2+ years from now, I won't get it. Plain and simple. If it was this easy to get rid of the DRM, then removing the Kin-req should be as easy.

Especially since they say you can 'turn it off'. If you can turn it off, what's the point of having it? Plus factor in that extra cost for people that just don't want it.

Not saying they would put it back in, but one has to look at the relative ease of how things changed so suddenly and consider the possibility.

The point of having it is that it assures to developers that people have it so its worth making use of it.

For what? To flail around like an idiot? Sorry, but I have yet to see anything other than gimmicks with it. Unless and until they can finally get holodecks going...

There's a reason for that. Only a fraction of the install base has the hardware, meaning there was no assurance for developers that spending time on it would pay off.

I'm still waiting for a Halo 5 Bundle. That was my original plan and it still is.

Make a game worth buying the thing and people will. Expecting someone to shell out $100 for a periph w/nothing worthwhile on it?

Make a game for a user base that doesn't exist and watch it make no money at all. You need a user base to sell something.

I don't know about you, but when I turn on my box, I want to sit down with a fan on, some music playing and not move any more than absolutely necessary.

The exact reason for consoles one doesn't have to use the thing or have it on. So it ain't too bad.

Then don't buy games like Dance Central. Motion control does not imply that you have to be standing up moving around constantly.

Then don't charge me for a periph I'm not going to use, have no interest in having, and is, IMO, nothing more than a gimmick.

Buy a pong console from the 70s then and have no unused features. Just because you don't want to use it, shouldn't mean that others can't take advantage of it.

They wont get that advantage if it doesn't get the established user base by shipping with all consoles.

You want it? Go out and buy it. Sell the console at $400, Kinect at $100. You'll get the same 'experience', I'll not have to waste money and subsidize you.

The current kinect uses that model and you're complaining that it has no games worth playing. If you do the same thing that wont change.

Chicken/egg. Then guess what...maybe people don't actually WANT the Kinect.

People don't want a lot of things until they start using them.

Looked it up...approx 24 mil Kinect 1's sold...yet not a whole lotta games for it. That's about a 1:3 attachment rate. If that isn't enough to get good games, then...

packing in and forcing people to spend an extra $100 probably isn't going to change that.

If you're making a "core" game using kinect, who are you going to target. 24mil or 77mil? Packing it in is going to definitely change that by having a 1:1 attachment.

No, it isn't. 24 mil is more than the # of gamecubes sold. 77mil is meaningless because you have no way of knowing how many actually WANT it. With 24mil, you KNOW that

those people were willing to spend money on it rather than being forced to get it ala a side of coleslaw w/a sandwich. Just because they have it, don't mean they'll eat.

You also know that in most circumstances your game is going to sell to 3-5% of the user base at most. If the percentage of those who have a peripheral is even smaller

Then you aren't going to take the risk of making a game that doesn't fit the standard style of games using that peripheral and hope that it sells.

Until that user base is the same you wont see companies taking risks and making "games you want".

Just because you have a higher attachment doesn't mean your sales are going to be higher. A shit game is a shit game. A GOOD game OTOH will drive sales of your periphs.

Forcing purchase on the HOPE that there'll be a good game is no different than the statements of download-only MAY lead to lower prices.

It's also no different then making a statement that a good game will drive sales. The entertainment industry in general has a long of history of good products not selling

It is considerably different. We aren't going to see eye to eye regardless, so goodnight.