Van Uden424,071 (210,795)

but XxDogOfThunderxX is far more l337...

probably someone who saw some of your posts on here

SHMUPS!!! Here i come!!!

So many games for you to start. Overload.

Too bad they won't making anymore Jap games since Japan is out of this generation (at least for now).

: D

Like a girlfriend promising to stop fucking other guys in an attempt to save the relationship.

I'd have taken the ability to share games digitally with (10 friends, Liner, Blood, etc) than the $2.30 that gamestops going to give me in trade

I thought it was at least interesting and should have been tried but close-mindedness won again.

I thought you were all leaving anyway, please don't act like this reversal means you are dropping your PS4's

Or your steam box or whatever Dead Souljas telling you to play.

And since we are all getting the One now, I will let any of you, my friends, borrow any of my games, just send me $5.60 in postage

http://tinyurl.com/ogqklwl

Devins, we still have time to start a movement pressuring MS into reverting to their old policies. Until they do, PR shit storm!

although, now they appear weak, and it will just lead to more complaining.

Exactly, they appear week and not confident. Why on earth should I buy your product if you don't feel confident enough in it to begin with?

There's a difference between 'weak' and 'going full retard ahead'. One shows willingness to listen (in theory), the other shows My Way Or The Highway.

I just feel like there is a middle ground that Microsoft completely skipped that could've make this an easy transition into digital instead of a forced march.

Maybe, but their premise was flawed from the start. So long I require their permission to play + the prices staying the same, they can go jump.

To be fair MS had balls for suggesting the change, once Sony didn't follow suit though they were put in an impossible position.

Really unpleased with Sony, waiting in the shadows like that. Mad at everybody now, haha. Surprised this isn't front page yet.

Xbox One-Eighty! Too little too late as I've already sold myself on the PS4.

I'm getting both so this is just a bonus for me. I'm sure a lot more people will buy the Xbox one now that all the crap is out of the way.

If they want to make steps towards the future they need to make digital copies cheaper than physical ones.

Right now digital copies are more often than not more expensive than physical ones, it makes less than no sense

You are right. If they change the prices than people will buy digital. I hate when I look at a game on demand and they want $39.99, but the store has it for $19.99.

Everything comes down to being a salesperson. If they said "DRM, no used, blah blah, but that's going to allow (insert benefits) and that's why you need this"...

..they'd be fine. They just did a shitty job selling it. Not to mention no two people on Team Xbox had the same story. Nobody knew what in the hell they were selling.

Yeah, their Marketing department needs to be hit with a 2X4

Now what do I do?!

Whatever you want. MS has already sold me on Sony. If MS can turn this off with a simple system update, what prevents them from turning it back on?

Well I'm stuck. I want to play games with the you and John and other friends, but MS showing that they know how to listen to consumers just impressed the shit out of me.

I'd keep both preorders. No need to pick one over the other quite yet. Me- MS has jerked me around as it is and their console hasn't even been released! PS4!

Man disappointing,to hear Kevin! I'd love to keep following your progress/profile,when I move to xb1.

But either way what's most important is choosing the console with the features and games that appeal to you. Hope we all enjoy gaming next Gen no matter what console

So they are abandoning gamers with the One? Sweet!

The DRM policy is changing. And something about the Cloud as an optional feature from what I've read elsewhere.

Took them long enough to consider it. Some people have faith, but not nearly enough. Betting not enough preorders came in for them.

woohoo!!!

Wait, I thought the DRM was a good thing? All these messages I got about being an idiot for not understanding what MS was doing are going to be....wrong?

If this is true I sense there are going to be a lot of cancelled PS4 preorders and a whole lot more One preorders

i have been holding out on my inevitable preorder largely because of their underhanded actions, but this would help me forget that.

i am a little skeptical about this . how is MS going to appease EA who dropped their online passes solely because of the DRM?

/\ EA Dropped the online pass because the executives that started the program "resigned" this past year. The new bosses don't want to deal with the PR headache.

DRM is good for the future, apparently. As the console moves more digital, it'll resurface, I'm sure. For now, it's about money, so this is the right move.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update The link is working now.

I don't believe that for a second DoT. They drop the online pass and not long after the DRM is announced on the new Xbox, way too much of a coincidence

And now that I'm actually reading it, I'm facepalming. Preorders must have REALLY not come through.

Yeah, the rumors of how badly the pre-orders were going must have been true. That and JIMMY FALLON~! may have prompted the change. Seriously, Jimmy Fallon is now relevant

"Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions." HELLO Japanese & European games!

That might be the biggest news of the day right there DoT

i agree with van uden. EA knew the DRM would eliminate the need for the pass, so they made the announcement early to look soak up the good PR.

And let us all make sure to notice that any "family plan" and sharing of digital titles is now dead, discs won't be used as download keys for titles anymore.

That sharp backpedal from digital focus is exactly why this is so grating.

I wish they gave options of either offline play or online play. My criticism of the 24-check in was it would brick your console. So dumb.

A compromise would be nice. Opt-in to the DRM and check-in, get access to all these features. Now the X1 and PS4 are even: incremental upgrades of the previous gen.

i wouldnt have minded the DRM if they had just come out and said this is what we are trying to do and this is why. instead they tried to cover it up with doublespeak.

Or something, I don't know how they'd pull it off, I'm too annoyed to think straight.

that being said, there is nothing wrong with online passes and dlc included in new copies that is purchasable for used copies. as long as they are up front about it.

I disagree, actually. While I don't like some of the beckpedaling, I feel the One offers much more potential for games with Kinect 2.0 and all their servers and whatnot.

And, if they can remove these, surely they can reimplement them if there's demand? We'll just have to see how it goes.

Honestly, I'm starting to just not give a damn either way with all of these things. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things?

The new system is still going to be amazing and it's going to have some awesome games. Most people are looking at these features from a completely selfish point of view.

The industry gets competition back I was tired at looking at those embarrassing pre order numbers.

And it's cool that M$ is listening and all, but if I'm being selfish; I would have rather had to 24h check in if it meant that I wouldn't ever have to use the disc again.

...and what if now they can the "family sharing" feature? That would suck, and they didn't even touch that today.

Hey Shadow...were you talking about Sony's? ;)

You wish bro. It was almost 4:1 PS4 over XBox pre orders in NYC alone.

it'll change now

I've always felt that companies who are so worried about their PR campaigns know that they have an inferior product. At least that's what I learned getting my degree.

...and I really don't care that the PS4 is coming with DanceDance Revolution 5 either. Specs won't matter for years.

Being completely selfish, I'm happy my only reservation has been lifted. There was just enough "rah rah love it or leave it" to be annoying too and that hurt feeling like

a "Micro$oft guy". PS4 was never on my want list through it all, but part of me felt like I wasn't wanted on the Juan either.

Not thrilled they scrapped so much, but I never saw sense in "You own the disc, but you cant play it".

why didn't they just include an offline mode, whereby you need the disc in order to play the game? they could even limit the amount of times you switch to offline mode,

similar to how they limit the number of license transfers you can do now.

Gotta love to spread a good rumour, I read it here http://www.whathifi.com/

That rumor that has been seen on many gaming related pages, would be an amazing turnout if it's true!

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

ZOMG!?!?!?!?!!?!?!

Isn't this the second (at least) time an update has bricked PS3s? Almost positive Wiis were bricked by updates in the past too.

Xbox One sales pitch: OUR UPDATES WON'T BRICK YOUR SYSTEM!

That would be better then anything else they have said

Nom nom

Wow...not exactly what I was expecting.

Nobody's made the obvious pun then?

I know Jess pretty well at this point and I've never once compared her to Nutella.

Happy Birthday :)

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HB, TP!

Again?! Man the years go by fast. Happy Birthday!

Happy bdaii mate

Happy Birthday Beasty Pastry!

Today I shall have a pastry in honour of your birthday. Have a happy one.

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Happy Birthday TP!

Thanks everyone! I'm celebrating by getting a root canal today unfortunately...woohoo...

Happy birthday honey, enjoy the extra attention you'll get during your treatment today

^I want that and Beyond: Two Souls.

I'm getting one tomorrow. I'm caught up on all my 360 games, so it's PS3 in between releases. I have a lot of games to play lol.

you are not alone lp :)

PS4 could be nothing but multiplats and it would still be better than Xbone PS3 is pretty sweet

Me also. I feel as if MS don't understand how fickle us gamers are . I for one don't care about brand loyalty, I just want the best games(key word) and accessibility.

I felt that Xbox One had the best game showing at E3, especially on the exclusives front. The DRM stuff put a damper on that.

Speaking of DRM, The latest is they have took a complete U-Turn. Embarrassing or a necessary shambles?

You might wonna break the news on here actually. never seen anything like it.

I have tried both those suggestions... no luck.

Hit it with a bigger rock?

Hit it with......two rocks?

Try a different kind of rock. Maybe a basalt. Or rub some sylvite on it.

Send me a pic of said cross plot. I'll see if I can remember =)

I'll PM tomorrow. It's a Litho-density crossplot and a ternary diagram on it...