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I believe that is still there is it not?

nope, the whiners took it away for all disc based games.

Not sure if it changed but at first there was going to be no rentals available

if it works at all, it will only be digital based games, which likely won't be able to be bought cheaper than discs, or always available everywhere.

Now you know why they say to be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

Nevermind, well I guess that goes away. Which lets be honest, is the easiest way to "pirate" similar to the way Netflix, Amazon Prime Instant, HBOGo, etc is.

I don't think I'm pre-ordering either right now. Probably wait until Spring. Money issues.

Money issues here too, but I figured since the righted the wrong (with exception of Kinect always on) but I can sell stuff to get the $$

Who wants PS2 games?

what did it say?

Well according to the websites that could get at it, no more always online and that the discs will be handled like the 360. Used/loan/trade-in etc

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The pre-order numbers must have been enough to scare MS. Too little, too late for me. Not changing the PS4 pre-order.

go here to see more: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/microsoft-to-pull-complete-reversal-on-xbox-one-dr/1100-4673/

Also no region lock?

ya i saw that too. hmmmmm interesting.

HAHA! And the gamer wins. Personally I don't mind the always online for some stuff, but not even being able to play a SP game without it is way too much.

Now I am pissed, because the virtual sharing is going away. That part was fucking awesome. Actually, the gamer doesn't win.

This is sweet, sweet news. Now if only they would announce that the corporate puppet Don Mattrick is 'moving on'....

Q: Will Xbox One allow players to trade in, purchase and play pre-owned games? A: We are designing Xbox One to enable customers to trade in and resell games.

We'll have more details on that later.WHAT "details"? Either it will allow used games or not.

Wow. Might have to switch my preorder. http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/rumor-microsoft-set-to-reverse-controversial-game-licensing-policies/

that is from the page without the update.

FragEm, MS did a total reverse. The One will allow used games just as the 360 does.

DoT, I just copy and pasted the Q&A from the news page. Why the need to share more details later if the policy is the same as the 360? I hope future "details" don't

mess things up for everyone.

Nevermind. I was reading an older "update". New one I read is clear as a bell. Too bad M$ only did this to keep up with Sony and not for their customers.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/updateis the official link from MS... looks like MS is listening...

I'll take it lol

From the president himself.. Don Mattrick....http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

I also saw that now that Sony is charging for PSN some countries can't have online MP http://www.gamesreviews.com/news/06/ps4-online-blocked-for-countries-without-a-store

Futiles : They didn't say the sharing would go away though so maybe that will stick around

This is starting to look really good. But not sure if they're backing down or all that happened since day one has been part of a marketing program

Actually they did "These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today"

Well, making you think that they are backing down can be part of a marketing program. I love conspiracies, just like the dude at my gamerpic :)

It isn't a conspiracy, Xbox.com is updated, and the presser says digital versions cannot be shared.

You're obviously not understanding what I'm saying but no worries. It's difficult for me to explain in english. Anyway I'm happy to see how the Xbox One will be

Conspiracy theory #13: The original hardware that set restrictions will remain inside the system. Restrictions will return in a mandatory update after major console sales

@herb, So you think they are lying to get people to buy the console and when you get the console it will still be the same as before they made this announcement?

^^^It is possible...but unlikely.

Nope, I think that they just tried to make people talk about the console, even if it was for bad, because they knew how the gamming community will react to the

annoucement of the first news we had about the console. Now that everyone is talking about the Xbox One, they say they're changing most of the things

and do it the way that most of the community will like. Not sure if it makes sense, will like to elaborate but not in the comments section and is hard for me in english.

I think is just a well thought movement by MS marketing. Is always better to go from bad news to good, rather tan from good news to bad. This last thing is what

is going to happen to Sony, as they have based all the advertisement on talking shit about the Xbox One.

So, other discless features won't work. Instant switching and smart match making are both likely gone

I think as long as you are online the cloud features are there, except for what involved licensing.

The doctor is saying any publicity is good publicity. And I want my game consoles to play games first anyway.

@Ryot, right, play games first, like playing Dead Rising 3 while your BF4 lobby loads up and preps the match, then instant jumping over when ready. Dead feature

Not necessarily a dead feature. Could still work with content that IS purchased digitally. So you could play a XBLA game while waiting for that BF4 lobby.

They probably got tired of all their execs filling up their diapers from the disaster that was E3 and their stupid policies.

No actually hated that news!