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Posted on 02 July 12 at 01:29 |
I think these kinds of fringe cases can be dealt with by the user on a per-case basis. If solution A has a highly detailed method of how to accomplish the achievement, and solution B is one sentence that says "Just wait for the ship to fly past in chapter 2 and you'll see the enemy you must kill for this achievement", I'd give the upvote to solution A and leave a comment on both about how the other solution has information pertinent to the method and should be included. If solution B finds itself updated and solution A remains neglected, then B gets my upvote. I find a lot of solutions that start with "to add on to [someone else's] solution..." and I immediately skip over these.
I've seen a lot of examples where the solution owner tirelessly updates their solutions with important information, and others where the information I needed was in the comments and the solution had never been updated since its original posting. In the latter case, the solution owner is not responsible for the information I need and does not get my upvote.
The only real problem I think would surface is when you have a situation like one solution that details a boosting method and one that details facets of multiplayer, and generally what happens is career boosters will downvote the latter and anti-boosters will downvote the former. In these cases, it seems the larger population of "legit players" or boosters would make their preferred method bubble to the top solution. Then again, "play until you get good, and tag along with beastly players when possible" is not a solution that should be upvoted. |
Potatoes are friggin' magical. Can you power an alarm clock with a carrot? No, sir. |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 02:16 |
| Mobius Evalon said: I find a lot of solutions that start with "to add on to [someone else's] solution..." and I immediately skip over these.+1 |
CEO/GSSP: Not polite, patient, or politically correct. |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 07:40 |
WeisGuy9 said:Mobius Evalon said: I find a lot of solutions that start with "to add on to [someone else's] solution..." and I immediately skip over these.+1It's actually a removable offence so next time you see solutions like that, please report them!  |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 08:59 |
| Beanpotter said:There's no set schedule. TA unlocked this thread so people could discuss and it's made interesting reading. When he decides to do something, there'll be an announcement. Please be patient.The idea of the proposed poll would be to gather more input. I see no harm in having all of the community have a say in the decision or at least get input from them. At the very least, it would seem like something is happening! |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 09:05 |
| I'm fairly certain that'll be the next move. |
Mame Tobikomi! |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 11:07 |
| Epsilon Theta said:Beanpotter said:There's no set schedule. TA unlocked this thread so people could discuss and it's made interesting reading. When he decides to do something, there'll be an announcement. Please be patient.The idea of the proposed poll would be to gather more input. I see no harm in having all of the community have a say in the decision or at least get input from them. At the very least, it would seem like something is happening!You of all people should understand why these things take time. |
Normality has resumed in the crazed mind of a nutjob |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 11:49 |
| Jayour said:WeisGuy9 said:Mobius Evalon said: I find a lot of solutions that start with "to add on to [someone else's] solution..." and I immediately skip over these.+1It's actually a removable offence so next time you see solutions like that, please report them! It is? Thanks for the information. I'll keep it in mind. |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 15:01 |
No problem.
The point is (what has been said here by others), they are not "solutions". They are what should have been comments left on previous solutions. So we remove them and ask the user to post what they'd said on the solution they referred to. |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 16:55 |
The only thing I wish would happen is that ANY downvote required anonymous feedback. I need to know what they didn't like so I can improve it or correct it.
At least then we could file a complaint if we're getting a barrage of garbage downvotes. |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 17:52 |
I wanted to read this whole thing, I truly did. Then I realized it was 11 pages long lol.
I'm new to reviewing here, and I have to agree with the whole thread. Reasonless-down-voters suck. I'm one of the e-writers who loves to hear feedback (good or bad) on anything I type. I just see all these downvotes and it bothers me not knowing why.
I mean, I've been reviewing what I can (every solution I've gone to type has been there already) and I love the people that did give feed back. I am one of the people who just do it to "help gamers" but it's frustrating getting knocked down without knowing why. Help me; help you and everyone else.
I wrote a review of The Walking Dead (Episode 1) and it's sitting at 14 positve 12 negative votes. The people commenting it seemed to have had a misunderstanding for my overall opinion for the game. But they commented it and told me that. Since then, I've decided to simplify my reviews (vocab) and my review of Episode 2 is sitting at 12-0.
So I'm not deleting any of my reviews. Solutions; if a better one is posted after mine and mine's voted down I'll most likley remove it. I don't care about getting negative feedback, it just bothers me not know why.
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 21:40 |
If we're going to keep negative votes, what if we made a mandatory comment for negative voting, but hide the gamertags of those who've voted negatively and left comments?
The purpose of this would be for authors to dispute votes that are unfounded or not properly explained without the negative voter fearing retaliation from the author and his/her friends. |
"You must exceed your limitations if you wish to survive..." |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 22:15 |
| I think I could get behind that. As long as it stays anonymous, I don't think it would be a huge issue. I'd still say get rid of the badge though. |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 22:37 |
| Making it anon wouldn't fix any of the problems with forced commenting that have been mentioned a thousand times in this thread... |
"Slutty outfit? You're one to talk." "This isn't slutty, it's...strategically placed." |
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Posted on 02 July 12 at 23:37 |
| No, but none of the suggestions made for the overall problem would "fix" it either. The only thing that will fix it is to make people stop trolling, which isn't possible without sacrificing a part of the site, which should never be considered a solution. I'm not saying "let's stop discussing, just take this idea", I'm just saying it could at least help, and the option should be given in whatever poll ends up happening. If that's what the users want, it's what they want. If it isn't, then it doesn't go through. In theory anyways |
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Posted on 03 July 12 at 02:35 |
| So we're agreed theres no fix and we can stop this now? neat! |
Normality has resumed in the crazed mind of a nutjob |
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Posted on 03 July 12 at 02:38 |
| Spilner said:So we're agreed theres no fix and we can stop this now? neat!+1 |
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Posted on 03 July 12 at 02:45 |
Spilner said:So we're agreed theres no fix and we can stop this now? neat! |
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Posted on 03 July 12 at 09:18 |
I still think getting rid of the badge and negative vote could be a good idea,and the negative vote replaced with a report this solution button instead,Trouble with the negative vote is they can be gotten for a whole number of reasons,including grammar spelling and punctuation.This isn't fair given a lot of solutions are posted by people who's 1st language isn't English.Or because someones friend has a solution below yours.Or because 1 or 2 people just dont grasp what someone is saying when everyone else does,Or people don't have the skill required to carry out the solution and they wanted the achievement handed to them on a plate.All these reasons can make a good solution look bad
Replacing the negative with a report this solution i feel would ensure only the best solutions that work would be on the site,If someone feels a solution is wrong or unhelpful they could report it rather than downvoting it,it could then be looked into and discussed with the author to see whether it stays or not,it would stop the unjustified downvoting that goes on
Basically it would mean if you don't like a solution don't use it,if you do like a solution use it and vote (or not), if you feel there's something wrong with it i.e it's misleading /doesn't work /copying someone else etc report it. |
Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot !! |
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Posted on 03 July 12 at 10:35 |
| stefb42 said:If someone feels a solution is wrong or unhelpful they could report it rather than downvoting it,it could then be looked into and discussed with the author to see whether it stays or not,it would stop the unjustified downvoting that goes onSomeone thinking a solution is wrong doesn't make it so |
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Posted on 03 July 12 at 11:22, Edited on 03 July 12 at 11:30 by WeisGuy9 |
stefb42 said:I still think getting rid of the badge and negative vote could be a good idea,and the negative vote replaced with a report this solution button instead,There already is a Report This Solution button, although accuracy of the solution is not what it is meant for. More importantly, the Content Team has no time to determine if solutions are "right" or "wrong". That's what the votes are for.
You know what we could do, though?
We could make it so annoyingly, frustratingly difficult to leave feedback that no one bothers to do it, whether positive or negative, because it's just too much fucking trouble and they have better things to do than waste 8 1/2 minutes of their lives trying to leave some goddamn feedback. The people who leave feedback now are already taking time out of what they are doing to leave it. Make it more difficult and they just won't bother. I know I wouldn't. |
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