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Last post: 26 Apr at 17:37
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Posted on 09 June 12 at 11:37 |
| DarkxMaterials said:Sleepwalker18 said:I would love this granted all I have is unobtainables I believe. Hmm I can't really think of a reason why someone would be against this to be honest.I'm against it just because the achievement exists. If it's there it's there. I don't like the idea of artificially making yourself feel better about your completion percentage.This. Same reason why the site shouldn't have a DLC off option IMHO |
Last post: 15 Jan at 03:05
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Posted on 09 June 12 at 23:26 |
| No, bad idea. Everyone knows there unobtainable that is why they are named that. You don't need them to be removed just so your completion % can be higher. Jesus christ, it seems like every change people want to see on this site is has to do with making everyone's completion % look higher. Get over it, it's a number. |
Last post: Yesterday at 17:58
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Posted on 10 June 12 at 00:07 |
| MR BLACKMAGIK said:No, bad idea. Everyone knows there unobtainable that is why they are named that. You don't need them to be removed just so your completion % can be higher. Jesus christ, it seems like every change people want to see on this site is has to do with making everyone's completion % look higher. Get over it, it's a number.That's not what it's about. I have a pretty crappy completion and don't really care if it's low. It's about the fact that you can never complete the game on TA even if you complete everything that's actually possible. |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: 15 Jan at 03:05
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Posted on 10 June 12 at 06:40 |
| So what? You can't complete games that completely glitch out on you either, or ones where the DLC is not available anymore, etc. Should we be able to remove all those too? If you don't care about completion then why do you care at all?? Do you have OCD or something? If you can't complete it, move on. |
Last post: Yesterday at 17:58
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Posted on 10 June 12 at 15:14, Edited on 10 June 12 at 15:20 by JMJimmy |
MR BLACKMAGIK said:So what? You can't complete games that completely glitch out on you either, or ones where the DLC is not available anymore, etc. Should we be able to remove all those too? If you don't care about completion then why do you care at all?? Do you have OCD or something? If you can't complete it, move on.Most games that "glitch out on you" can be fixed by downloading your profile onto a memory card or second console and trying again. Games where the DLC is unavailable are covered under the "DLC I own" option. There are three reasons I think it's a good idea:
1) It allows people to place the completed game into their trophy case
2) When viewing lists that have the "Hide Completed Games" they can actually be hidden
3) The completed game badge becomes accurate
Though if I did have OCD your comment would be highly insulting. I could also say the same, stat "purists" take such offence to the elimination of oddities from the stats it's rather strange to me.
Edit: I think of it kind of like saying a baseball player had a hit every game but then a purist coming along and saying "he didn't hit one in X game because it was rained out". |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: 15 Jan at 03:05
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Posted on 10 June 12 at 16:13 |
| If your referring to me as a stat purist then your crazy. I just think it's stupid how people try to change and manipulate what there stats are. Look at your gamercard on your xbox, forget about TA, forget about xbox.com, just look at your own tag. If it says 50/50, 60/60, etc. and is up to date then it's complete. If it's not, then it isn't. It's as simple as that. |
Last post: 26 Apr at 17:37
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Posted on 10 June 12 at 16:46 |
| MR BLACKMAGIK said:I just think it's stupid how people try to change and manipulate what there stats are. Look at your gamercard on your xbox, forget about TA, forget about xbox.com, just look at your own tag. If it says 50/50, 60/60, etc. and is up to date then it's complete. If it's not, then it isn't. It's as simple as that.QFT |
Last post: Yesterday at 17:58
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Posted on 10 June 12 at 17:43 |
| MR BLACKMAGIK said:If your referring to me as a stat purist then your crazy. I just think it's stupid how people try to change and manipulate what there stats are. Look at your gamercard on your xbox, forget about TA, forget about xbox.com, just look at your own tag. If it says 50/50, 60/60, etc. and is up to date then it's complete. If it's not, then it isn't. It's as simple as that.We're talking about TA features not Xbox gamertag features. For the functionality of TA having these split off simply works better with its various features. Besides, if you have "Include all DLC" on then you wouldn't be affected, it would only be for those who use the "Don't include DLC" or "DLC I own" options. |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: Yesterday at 22:45
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Posted on 10 June 12 at 18:06 |
| I think we should be able to exclude achievements that I just don't feel like doing, because they hurt my completion percentage. There are some achievements that I just can't be arsed to bother with, and if I could exclude them that would be great. Also, there are some achievements that are really, really hard, so if I could exclude those as well that would be awesome. Also, sometimes I start a game and then decide that I don't like it because it's just not very good. If there was a way to exclude the rest of the achievements that I didn't get, I'd really like that. |
CEO/GSSP: Not polite, patient, or politically correct. |
Last post: Yesterday at 22:22
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Posted on 10 June 12 at 18:12 |
OK, while I completely disagree with JMJimmy, and think that separating Unobtainables is a bad idea (the achievements are there, period. It sucks, but they're there) and I have All DLC selected, so don't think I have certain things I feel are OK to separate, other's that aren't -- some of you guys are taking it way too far. Unobtainables were never possible. Still aren't. Very very high chance they never will be. No-longer available DLC packs, hard achievements (that made me laugh WeisGuy  ), or buggy games are at least possible for people to get.
Also, BLACKMAGIK. Again, remember that I disagree with the idea of separating when you read this. Just because Microsoft tells you it's complete, doesn't mean go off of that. The whole point of starting this site was because TA thought that Microsoft did part of achievements wrong. |
Last post: Yesterday at 17:58
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Posted on 10 June 12 at 20:19 |
WeisGuy9 said:I think we should be able to exclude achievements that I just don't feel like doing, because they hurt my completion percentage. There are some achievements that I just can't be arsed to bother with, and if I could exclude them that would be great. Also, there are some achievements that are really, really hard, so if I could exclude those as well that would be awesome. Also, sometimes I start a game and then decide that I don't like it because it's just not very good. If there was a way to exclude the rest of the achievements that I didn't get, I'd really like that.While a troll of a comment it actually illustrates the fact that I'm not arguing any of those things. I'm not arguing discontinueds, I'm not arguing insanely difficult achievements, or buggy, or the ability to remove games from TA because my dog at the disc, etc. I'm also not arguing it for completion % - that means nothing to me since # of games aren't factored in any way. Simply ones that ought not to exist because the company can't be arsed to make them obtainable. What are they other than a description of something the company thought might be an idea for an achievement?
In terms of TA there's no impact on ratio, there's no real impact on completion % (for arguments sake the average user might have 1 unobtainable and 2500 possible achievements that's 0.0004% I mean who cares?), the only impacts it has are on games completed and to me if someone completes every possible achievement then they have completed the game. |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: Yesterday at 22:45
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Posted on 10 June 12 at 20:55, Edited on 10 June 12 at 21:08 by WeisGuy9 |
Think it trollish if you want, but it also illustrates the start of a trend; a trend we've already seen in action here on TA because people desire that artificial feel-good of tweaking things for meaningless benefit. Those achievements are already statistically null because no one has them. Why in the world would you want to give a value to them, especially when that value would be selective?
It just seems a lot like a quarterback saying he would like to exclude passes that get dropped by the receiver because they adversely affect his completion percentage. It just goes with the territory. It doesn't matter if it was tipped, dropped, blocked or badly thrown. It's still an incompleted pass. |
CEO/GSSP: Not polite, patient, or politically correct. |
Last post: Yesterday at 10:32
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Posted on 10 June 12 at 23:29 |
| I'm glad some people have bothered to articulate why this is a ridiculous suggestion, saves me some time. |
Behold: Animals As Leaders - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ZrF7taMHA&feature=relmfu |
Last post: Yesterday at 17:58
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Posted on 11 June 12 at 00:07 |
WeisGuy9 said:Why in the world would you want to give a value to them, especially when that value would be selective?In what way does it give any value to them?
WeisGuy9 said:It just seems a lot like a quarterback saying he would like to exclude passes that get dropped by the receiver because they adversely affect his completion percentage. It just goes with the territory. It doesn't matter if it was tipped, dropped, blocked or badly thrown. It's still an incompleted pass.That analogy has the possibility that the pass can be completed. Now if you're passing to an arm-less receiver who has no chance of catching the ball that might be more accurate. |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: Yesterday at 19:23
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Posted on 11 June 12 at 09:37 |
| I have to agree with the naysayers here. Although I am upset that there are unobtainable achievements... those achievements were designed by the developers. Removing them from the whole of a title simply because the achievement doesn't work isn't the solution. Rallying support for the developers to fix their game is likely a better cause. Look at what was accomplished by the guys who contacted the NFS team. They were able to cycle the race day achievements prior to the server shutdown when everyone gave up hope years ago. Granted.. that was a discontinued achievement.... but the fact remains the developers can always publish a fix. Not to sound rude, but if getting 100% completion in all games is your goal, you should probably check titles before you play them to see if they are completable first. |
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Last post: Yesterday at 17:58
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Posted on 11 June 12 at 13:34 |
| planting42 said:I have to agree with the naysayers here. Although I am upset that there are unobtainable achievements... those achievements were designed by the developers. Removing them from the whole of a title simply because the achievement doesn't work isn't the solution. Rallying support for the developers to fix their game is likely a better cause. Look at what was accomplished by the guys who contacted the NFS team. They were able to cycle the race day achievements prior to the server shutdown when everyone gave up hope years ago. Granted.. that was a discontinued achievement.... but the fact remains the developers can always publish a fix. Not to sound rude, but if getting 100% completion in all games is your goal, you should probably check titles before you play them to see if they are completable first.As I've said repeatedly it has to do with getting TA's features to work as intended, not about 100% completion. |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: Yesterday at 22:22
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Posted on 11 June 12 at 15:45 |
| JMJimmy said:As I've said repeatedly it has to do with getting TA's features to work as intended, not about 100% completion.Where did you get that letting people complete without unobtainables was "as intended"? |
Last post: Yesterday at 10:32
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Posted on 11 June 12 at 16:34 |
| alklein92201 said:JMJimmy said:As I've said repeatedly it has to do with getting TA's features to work as intended, not about 100% completion.Where did you get that letting people complete without unobtainables was "as intended"?The tooth fairy told him. |
Behold: Animals As Leaders - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ZrF7taMHA&feature=relmfu |
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Posted on 11 June 12 at 20:23 |
alklein92201 said:JMJimmy said:As I've said repeatedly it has to do with getting TA's features to work as intended, not about 100% completion.Where did you get that letting people complete without unobtainables was "as intended"?Can you add a game you've obtained all the obtainables to your trophy case? No.
Will the game be hidden when you check "Hide Completed Games"? No.
Will it reflect on your completed games badge? No.
Have you completed everything that is humanly possible? Yes.
Anyway I'm not going to argue it anymore, I've said my piece. |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: 24 May at 22:55
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Posted on 12 June 12 at 00:46 |
| I still think there should be two separate standards for completion - achieveable and total. The true measure is total, but achievable would be a useful measure. |