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Posted on 20 May 12 at 02:12 |
Roco2k9 has just submitted some Game Info for http://www.trueachievements.com/EXIT2-xbox-360.htm:
Genre change from Platformer to Puzzle
Roco2k9 said:I would argue that any self-proclaimed puzzle fanatic should attempt this game and I suggest that it get moved into that genre. |
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Posted on 20 May 12 at 06:13 |
| Based on Genre Documentation I think it falls under Platformer. |
"You must exceed your limitations if you wish to survive..." |
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Posted on 20 May 12 at 07:08 |
| The Exit games seem to be Puzzle games very similar to ilomilo |
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Posted on 20 May 12 at 07:14 |
http://www.trueachievements.com/N-xbox-360.htm
Braid
Splosion Man
Are all platformers. I'll bring up ilomilo to the team. |
"You must exceed your limitations if you wish to survive..." |
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Posted on 20 May 12 at 10:19 |
Shadow Enz said:http://www.trueachievements.com/N-xbox-360.htm
Braid
Splosion Man
Are all platformers. I'll bring up ilomilo to the team.I don't disagree with you on those, but Exit is about finding the right set of actions with various puzzle elements to get the people safely out. That's a puzzle game. |
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Posted on 21 May 12 at 01:34 |
| Puzzle in the context as defined by our flag definitions refers to Scrabble, Sudoku, Crosswords, games like that. |
"You must exceed your limitations if you wish to survive..." |
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Posted on 21 May 12 at 13:32 |
Here's a quick selection of games currently listed as puzzle that don't fit with what you're saying:
Astropop
http://www.trueachievements.com/A-Virus-Named-TOM-xbox-....htm
Catherine
Diner Dash
FLOCK!
Frogger
http://www.trueachievements.com/Gel-xbox-360.htm
Lode Runner
Leedmees
Mercury Hg
Puddle
The Misadventures of P.B. Winterbottom
The Splatters |
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Posted on 21 May 12 at 16:09 |
| Shadow Enz said:I'll bring up ilomilo to the team.I'll bring up the rest of that list to the team as well. |
"You must exceed your limitations if you wish to survive..." |
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Posted on 27 May 12 at 15:58 |
| Scrabble, Sudoku and Crosswords would obviously fit in the "Word and Number" sub-genre. There is also a "no sub-genre" sub-genre, which could contain all the other puzzle games listed. |
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Posted on 28 May 12 at 06:42 |
Roco2k9 said:Scrabble, Sudoku and Crosswords would obviously fit in the "Word and Number" sub-genre. There is also a "no sub-genre" sub-genre, which could contain all the other puzzle games listed.I agree fully. Straight from wikipedia "Puzzle video games are a genre of video games that emphasize puzzle solving. The types of puzzles to be solved can test many problem solving skills including logic, strategy, pattern recognition, sequence solving, and word completion."
I suggest adding an Action Puzzle subgenre for puzzle games that are played in real-time and with direct control over an avatar (much like the Action RPG subgenre, but for Puzzle games) |
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Posted on 28 May 12 at 09:05 |
No. We did visit Wikipedia when designing the genres at some point. We also decided not to have an "Action" Puzzle genre. It seems that for a lot of people "Action" is just a container for everything that seems odd. Most "Action" games are actually of a more refined sub-genre such as Maze which we have not implemented.
Roco2k9 said:Scrabble, Sudoku and Crosswords would obviously fit in the "Word and Number" sub-genre. There is also a "no sub-genre" sub-genre, which could contain all the other puzzle games listed.Those games are already Puzzle games with the exception of Scrabble which is a board game who happens to be a word puzzler. In these cases we focus on the board nature of the game. As for the others, please do not confuse games that contain puzzle elements for Puzzlers. Some of these games are built around a core puzzle mechanics but they are very different from the games that fit into the Puzzle genre. |
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Posted on 29 May 12 at 02:55 |
| This is a good discussion. I'm with Vorpal on this one, but I like that this site encourages this type of debate. |
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Posted on 29 May 12 at 16:18 |
| They correspond to our understanding of Puzzle games! |
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Posted on 29 May 12 at 16:26 |
| Epsilon Theta said:Those games are already Puzzle games with the exception of Scrabble which is a board game who happens to be a word puzzler. In these cases we focus on the board nature of the game. As for the others, please do not confuse games that contain puzzle elements for Puzzlers. Some of these games are built around a core puzzle mechanics but they are very different from the games that fit into the Puzzle genre.What do you mean by the part in bold? |
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Posted on 05 June 12 at 11:40 |
| That you should not confuse games containing puzzle elements to be Puzzlers as by our definition. This argument also applies the other way round of course; please to not confuse Puzzlers containing enabling gameplay elements not to be Puzzlers. Just loose the "As for the other" and all should be clear! |
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Posted on 17 June 12 at 17:02, Edited on 17 June 12 at 17:05 by Epsilon Theta |
We have decided to reassign the game to Puzzle, no sub-genre. Thank you for your patience!
While the game contains platforming as an enabling element, the nature of the game is closer to a Puzzle game! |