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Last post: 25 Mar at 14:23
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Posted on 02 June 12 at 02:13 |
Wondering if the buggy flag applies to achievements that are indirectly buggy?
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requires that you earn all of the titles in the game. I have no doubt that this achievement pops accurately.
Some of the titles are earned for defeating certain story-line bosses, and I've found that if you fast-forward through the dialog after defeating one of the bosses, the game fails to recognize that you've defeated him. Since this is a story-line fight, you can't reply it, rendering this achievement unobtainable without starting a new game (or backing up to an old save).
Does this sort of indirect buggyness qualify for the buggy flag? |
Last post: Today at 20:45
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Posted on 02 June 12 at 03:31, Edited on 02 June 12 at 03:34 by TerreDactyl |
Indeed it does.
Take from the Achievement flags page on the site, the buggy flag applies to: "Buggy achievements are those which do not behave as expected. Some buggy achievements will unlock unpredictably after the requirements have been met and exceeded, others will unlock after performing a completely unrelated task, and a few will be unobtainable for certain players, but not others." - obviously it's a simplified...
The achievement itself would come under "unobtainable for certain players" because it screws the player out of getting it.
There's never any harm in submitting flag suggestions btw, the content team will be able to work out if achievement deserves a certain flag you gave it or not. Help others out who may be unaware of an issue... etc. |
Hi i'm Terre. I break things. |
Last post: 25 Mar at 14:23
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Posted on 02 June 12 at 13:48 |
| Thanks. I've since found out that the description for that title is what is buggy (or some would say, highly misleading), but thanks for the general guideline. |
Last post: Today at 20:49
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Posted on 03 June 12 at 05:17 |
| Sounds like a missable too, since you're required to begin a new save slot if you mess it up. |
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Last post: 25 Mar at 14:23
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Posted on 03 June 12 at 14:19 |
Does 'Missable' apply when it's only missable due to a bug? (Although this achievement is missable for completely legitimate reasons. I have flag suggestions for the entire game, although policy requires that I 1000 the game before submitting them so give me a few weeks.  ) |
Last post: 22 Jan at 09:39
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Posted on 03 June 12 at 14:24 |
| Mike Marcelais said:Does 'Missable' apply when it's only missable due to a bug? (Although this achievement is missable for completely legitimate reasons. I have flag suggestions for the entire game, although policy requires that I 1000 the game before submitting them so give me a few weeks. )http://www.trueachievements.com/flags.aspx#missable |
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Posted on 03 June 12 at 15:11 |
Mike Marcelais said:Does 'Missable' apply when it's only missable due to a bug? (Although this achievement is missable for completely legitimate reasons. I have flag suggestions for the entire game, although policy requires that I 1000 the game before submitting them so give me a few weeks. )No, missable applies as long as it is possible to beat the whole game without the achievement, and you are required to start a whole new game to get it. If you can get to the area where you get the achievement within 1 hour of starting a new game, it doesn't get the missable flag regardless of whether you'll need to start a new game.
I've submitted flags for entire games before completing them, I don't believe there's any policy saying you must 1000 the game before giving flags for the whole game. You just can't give partial flags if the game hasn't been completely flagged yet, you need to give flags for every achievement. |
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Posted on 03 June 12 at 16:59 |
The old flag suggestions thread did start off by saying that you had to have earned achievements before submitting the flags, since submissions where only accepted for the full game a completion was technically required.
However it devolved to the point where you only had to have played the game somewhere along the line. |
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Posted on 03 June 12 at 18:06 |
| Ah OK, I never knew about the initial ruling. I definitely gave my share of flags on achievements I didn't have, because it was things like cumulative (Pickup X items, and I knew the items weren't exhaustive or in specific spots), or things like that. |
Last post: 22 Jan at 09:39
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Posted on 03 June 12 at 18:08 |
| Yeah it got lax and more trust in the community (along with staff having to check with suggestions) so they let that slide a bit. |
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Posted on 04 June 12 at 06:01 |
Mike Marcelais said:Does 'Missable' apply when it's only missable due to a bug? (Although this achievement is missable for completely legitimate reasons. I have flag suggestions for the entire game, although policy requires that I 1000 the game before submitting them so give me a few weeks. )I believe so yes, but I could be mistaken. I'm hoping a more veteran user or the GI Manager can elaborate on this.
My understanding of missable is, if it's missable by any means, it gets the flag (as long as the new save slot factor applies). |
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Posted on 04 June 12 at 14:11 |
| Spilner said:Yeah it got lax and more trust in the community (along with staff having to check with suggestions) so they let that slide a bit.Thanks all. Flags for the entire game have been submitted. |