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Deadly Mynx
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Posted on 25 June 12 at 12:38
Can someone please explain how/why the leaderboards work like this?: I had the #1 rank on 6 out of 8 leaderboards for Sportsmans sub genre,xbox360 games.Just today a guy tied me,if he only tied me,and I held#1 first,why did he then take the #1 place on those boards if I held them 1st for quite some time,and he only tied me?.I don't understand this.It seems that whoever hits it 1st,should stay 1st if another ties you.Could someone please explain this to me because I don't understand it or think it's fair.
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Posted on 25 June 12 at 13:49
I don't understand how they work either. I am tied for 1st on a completion leaderboard (with 100%) - loads of people have 100%, but it seems totally random what order the ties are put in. In two days I have been placed 24th, then 11th, and today 90th. No idea why.
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Deadly Mynx
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Posted on 25 June 12 at 14:05
Just wish I understood why they work the way they do.Not an overall major deal since I got a windows phone last week just for One sportsmans game to play.Still have #1 for all platforms,but lost the#1's for 360 games.It would seem more fair though if the gamer who got there first would stay first even if someone tied them,and only drop down in rank if someone surpassed their scores.
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Posted on 25 June 12 at 18:07, Edited on 25 June 12 at 18:10 by xPut Name Herex
Just to quote myself from a previous thread:
From my experience, in the event of a tie, you just kinda get randomly placed on the leaderboard. I've had that happen with something, where a bunch of us were tied for max TA Score in a very specific leaderboard setting (I think it was like Action-Adventure on WP, can't remember). Anyway, one day I was like 54th or something. The next day (I assume after one of the daily site recalculations) I was in the 30s somewhere, jumped to fourth the next, and then started moving back up and down within the range of people I was tied with.

Point being, by the time you check again, there's a chance you're position could have changed out of sheer randomness.
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Deadly Mynx
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Posted on 25 June 12 at 19:00, Edited on 25 June 12 at 21:19 by Deadly Mynx
^Thank you for posting that,it helped.:) I do see the boards bouncing back & forth now from putting me in#2,to putting me back in #1.Guess that's just how they work.:)
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Posted on 26 June 12 at 00:37
Leaderboards are based on score, percent, ratio, or whatever the criteria is. That's all they are based on. If you and someone else have the same score, and score is the basis of the leaderboard, then you are tied. Leaderboards are not based on score plus whatever else you'd like them to be based on.
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Posted on 26 June 12 at 07:09
WeisGuy9 said:Leaderboards are based on score, percent, ratio, or whatever the criteria is. That's all they are based on. If you and someone else have the same score, and score is the basis of the leaderboard, then you are tied. Leaderboards are not based on score plus whatever else you'd like them to be based on.Nobody claimed, wished or indicated that they were.
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Posted on 26 June 12 at 07:18
DakotaThrice said:WeisGuy9 said:Leaderboards are based on score, percent, ratio, or whatever the criteria is. That's all they are based on. If you and someone else have the same score, and score is the basis of the leaderboard, then you are tied. Leaderboards are not based on score plus whatever else you'd like them to be based on.Nobody claimed, wished or indicated that they were.I wish there was a either a second criteria in the event of a tie, or that everyone who is tied has T1 next to their name, instead of a random rank. I'm technically tied for 1st on my leaderboard, but according to my milestone I only broke the top 50...
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Posted on 26 June 12 at 09:16, Edited on 26 June 12 at 09:17 by WeisGuy9
Nobody? Really?roll

You mean except for the OP? And everyone after that?
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Posted on 26 June 12 at 09:19
Exactly they were asking if there was some other determining factor.
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Posted on 26 June 12 at 09:22
Umm...

Deadly Mynx said:Can someone please explain how/why the leaderboards work like this?: I had the #1 rank on 6 out of 8 leaderboards for Sportsmans sub genre,xbox360 games.Just today a guy tied me,if he only tied me,and I held#1 first,why did he then take the #1 place on those boards if I held them 1st for quite some time,and he only tied me?.I don't understand this.It seems that whoever hits it 1st,should stay 1st if another ties you.Could someone please explain this to me because I don't understand it or think it's fair.
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DakotaThrice
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Posted on 26 June 12 at 09:50
Doesn't mention anything about there being another criteria for ties, as I said that's just asking how it works.
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Posted on 26 June 12 at 15:04
DakotaThrice said:Doesn't mention anything about there being another criteria for ties, as I said that's just asking how it works.But the OP finished by saying "I don't understand it or think it's fair" implying that they didn't understand what the secondary criteria were, and if there weren't any there should be.You answered by saying that nobody "wished" for additional criteria, when clearly they do.
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Posted on 26 June 12 at 15:06
When I stated that nobody had stated that. If they don't come out and say what they want they'll never get it.
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Posted on 26 June 12 at 15:16
I've posted a wishlist item for tied rankings to be set out better if you'd like to comment and see if we can make a change - Clear 'tied' ranking on leaderboards.
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Posted on 26 June 12 at 17:47
Ultimately, the best option would for everyone tied to have the same rank. Both of you should in theory should show as rank 1.
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Posted on 27 June 12 at 00:22
W1LLYMAN said:Ultimately, the best option would for everyone tied to have the same rank. Both of you should in theory should show as rank 1.Exactly my conclusion aswell. If 10 of you are tied in the top spot, it should call you all first. Then the next guy will be 11th laugh
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Posted on 27 June 12 at 06:53
Exactly, this is what I have requested in te link above - please add your +1 so we might actually see this change
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