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CoziestParasite - I'd rather fight 1,000 Capra Demons than face Alex Kidd in another tennis match.
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Last post: 22 May at 15:39
Posted on 05 September 12 at 21:58
Or at the very least, it promotes shameful behavior.

First off, allow me to say that I love video games. I've grown up playing them, and I wouldn't trade my game experiences for anything in the world. I've sunk tens of thousands of hours into various games across a multitude of genres, and living in the online age has allowed me to share just as many hours with friends and strangers alike. But this website, and many others like it, have essentially destroyed online communities and have turned some of my favorite game's online components into stressful, aggravating competitions to just stay in a game.

Because of this website's members, and by extension the website itself, I am no longer allowed to enjoy online multiplayer in some of my favorite games. If I happen to stumble upon an online match in a game that has a very small player base, there's a certain sense of elation that I feel, and I think to myself, "Finally! After months of waiting, I am finally able to play this game again." But now, chances are high that the one game going on is a boosting session, and I'm either kicked, banned, or teamkilled to the point that I'm forced to leave. Even games that have larger player bases are subject to your selfishness and greed.

Last night, I attempted to play Battlefield: Bad Company, and though it was admittedly very early in the morning (around 4 AM EST), I was still excited to see that there were people playing. Unfortunately for me, the game had been hi-jacked by members of this website, and I was not allowed to participate in the match. Games with seldom-downloaded DLC are often taken over in similar manners.

The behavior of this website's community is both disgusting and appalling, and many of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Your lust for Gamerscore leads you to hold people's paid-for Xbox Live privileges hostage in some of their most favorite games, and yet you continuously infect the player bases of seldom-played video games and have forever perverted any sense of elation I used to feel when playing such games. I am now forced to play in fear of boosters and Achievement hunters who will either brutally force non-boosters out of a game or unlock their Achievements and never play again.

You have forever ruined dozens of online communities, and I have never once seen an ounce of regret from you Gamerscore gluttons. People pay for these games and they pay for their Xbox Live, and yet you jerks persist to deny people access to both of these.

I propose that you attempt to keep boosting sessions private whenever possible, (ie host a private match instead of public) and whenever you do venture forth into the public realm, immediately cease your boosting once "randoms" join the game and allow them to play, or even invite them to boost along with you. Of course, if they refuse, you should still cease your boosting, because the rampant discrimination against and refusal of access to non-boosters not only reflects badly on the individual participating members, but the community and website as a whole.

I urge you to consider other people's feelings when playing and boosting games. There is no justification for ruining people's experiences like this, and to continue such behavior will forever segregate the Xbox Live community and only further the anger and resentment some people already feel toward boosters and people with high gamerscores.
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Last post: Today at 05:19
Posted on 05 September 12 at 22:13
We have ruined online communities? Those online communities on games such as Bad Company 1 are virtually dead, and I'm 100% sure that was Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 3's fault. Not TA's.

Actually if you think about it. without boosting sessions, there would be 0 amount of people playing (With the exception of you at 4am.) I see nothing wrong with boosting sessions, they make achieving a hard goal a ton easier for players willing to co-operate. I don't know how much knowledge you have about TA but not all Sessions made are "Boosting" I have seen a ton of Just for fun sessions take place, and if playing just for fun also rustles your jimmies then I have no clue on what to do. roll

As for the "Keeping boosting sessions Private," some games don't allow achievements to be unlocked in private sessions, or the games just don't have a private feature at all.

So in short. You should be ashamed that you're attacking an extremely helpful and well organized Gaming community and site with this nonsense.
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Psymon100
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Last post: 28 Jan at 20:31
Posted on 05 September 12 at 23:25
I wrote a comprehensive reply but lost it.
CoziestParasite said:The behavior of this website's community is both disgusting and appalling, and many of you should be ashamed of yourselvesNot a good way to win friends and influence people.


I think you've had a frustrating time with these dilapidated games. This doesn't stem from the presence of boosters, but from the lack of competitive players. You say so yourself:
Last night, I attempted to play Battlefield: Bad Company, and though it was admittedly very early in the morning (around 4 AM EST), I was still excited to see that there were people playingSeriously man, why blame this website and it's users? Why not go back to Genesis and blame Microsoft for inventing achievements in the first place?

I think that what your post is trying to achieve is to win people over to your way of thinking, eg - that playing 'competitively' should take precedence to 'boosting'. In a way, I am inclined to agree with you. But let's consider what selfishness really means, it means putting the needs of oneself over the needs of others. Therefore, if one was joining a server hijacked by boosters, I'd assume that the 'others' are all boosters, the 'one' is the non booster, therefore in this situation described the 'one' is selfish, not the boosters.
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Last post: Yesterday at 03:56
Posted on 06 September 12 at 00:29, Edited on 06 September 12 at 00:34 by II N0 Scope45 I
Having boosted Battlefield bad company a few months ago, I can tell you that the community on that game is full of Teamkilling, trash talking dickheads, long before us boosters got on the game.

Have you played call of duty? Those games are full of foul mouthed 10 year old kids who are alot worse than any boosters.

You are a idiot if you think booster ruin "Communities" Who the hell wants to play a game like Turning point for 2500 kills? Why don't you play newer games where there is less chance of running into boosters?

The truth is we are going to stop boosting just because some people cry about it, without boosting I would say at least half the online achievements on Xbox would be unobtainable due to lack of players.

Also I noticed you have gaming session feedback from Homefront & Shadowrun, by doing that surely you are ruining the "Communities" stop being a hypocrite.
CoziestParasite - I'd rather fight 1,000 Capra Demons than face Alex Kidd in another tennis match.
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Last post: 22 May at 15:39
Posted on 06 September 12 at 01:07
Yeah. This pretty much confirms my suspicions. You guys are nothing but selfish, greedy assholes.

My Shadowrun sessions was done completely in a Private Match, and Homefront consisted of nothing more than joining a 16-person party. I have never once participated in the hi-jacking of public games, and those that do are preventing people from playing games.

You guys single-handedly invade lobbies and force people out of playing their favorite games, and you do it all with some second-rate strawman justification. You have no right to dictate who can and can not play public matches, and the fact that the majority of you do so is disgusting and shameful.

You sit here and attack me for wanting to enjoy something, which is indicative of the underlying problem here - you boosters take the fun out of playing online. If a game has a small player base, what is the harm in postponing one goddamn session in order to give "randoms" a chance to play? Why do you have to be so discriminatory and selfish?

Personally, you can accuse me of being any number of things, but the fact of it remains - you are all incredibly selfish and vindictive, and it's extremely shitty of you to constantly prevent people from playing games. There is far more to gaming, and life in general, than your Gamerscore, and the fact that you consistently and proficiently boot people from public matches with brute force via your group mentality, only personifies you individually as villains of the highest caliber.

Tell yourselves whatever is necessary for you to sleep at night, but know that you are participating in the systematic, disseminated dismantling of dozens of online communities. You are a cancer to online games with small player bases, and you continuously cheapen, and often times ruin the multiplayer experiences of other people.

This website and its community clearly endorses this type of behavior, and it is a damn shame. You are unreasonable, unruly people that only care about your individual e-peens and have aligned yourselves against the greater gaming community as a result, and until you change your behavior and act more considerate toward people looking to play their favorite games online, you will forever remain as such.

Mark my words, you heathens - your persistence in bullying people out of public matches and lobbies will only serve to condemn websites such as this, and there will come a day when the tables are turned and it is boosters who are actively discriminated against. Good luck getting your precious little Achievements when it is YOU who is persecuted.
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Last post: Yesterday at 03:56
Posted on 06 September 12 at 01:32
You are so stupid it amazes me, we have just as much right to boost as you do to play "legit". You mentioned how your battlefield game was "ruined" by boosters, why didn't you just leave & find another game? I am sure there was at least another 10 games running at that point.

Who are you to tell us what we can & cant do anyway? No-one wants to play the shitty old games that you claim we ruin & any popular game we choose to boost, you can just find another game.

You think I or most of the community care what randoms think? Most of them have pitiful gamerscores with under 2 years on Xbox, why should 8 people stop boosting just because one person doesn't like it? Go play a different game & stop complaining.
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Last post: 17 Mar at 15:22
Posted on 06 September 12 at 01:34
I can only hope that this foolishness is an elaborate attempt to troll the forums.
caelich
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Last post: Yesterday at 00:16
Posted on 06 September 12 at 01:40
So wait, if you stumble across a group of people boosting in an otherwise empty online game, if they dont drop everything they are doing so that you can do what you want, you one person to their 4, 6, 8, whatever, they are the selfish ones? Why dont you accept that the communities for old online games die and if you cant find people to play with then get a newer game with an active community?
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Last post: 19 Mar at 09:44
Posted on 06 September 12 at 01:46
While there are some people who boost a game even when the online community isn't dead (and I agree those boosters should be despised unless it is done in a private match or something) the vast majority are people who are playing precisely because the community is already dead. You can't kill something that was already dead.
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Last post: 15 May at 05:38
Posted on 06 September 12 at 01:58
Lulz. I feel like one of the kids whose parents called them a devil worshiper back in the early 90s for playing Magic. As a heathen, I am surely going to hell for this.
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Last post: 21 May at 00:47
Posted on 06 September 12 at 02:02
This thread is hilarious. Coziest, I give you props for being a good writer, but your argument is outrageous. The gamerscore (boosting, TrueAchievement, whatever you want to call it) community is tiny compared to the larger Xbox Live community. How could we possibly "hold people's paid-for Xbox Live privileges hostage in some of their most favorite games," as you say?

And as others in this thread have mentioned, boosting sessions for games in which the multiplayer community is already dead should be irrelevant. Without boosting sessions you would never find a match.
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Posted on 06 September 12 at 02:21
CoziestParasite said:Mark my words, you heathens - your persistence in bullying people out of public matches and lobbies will only serve to condemn websites such as this, and there will come a day when the tables are turned and it is boosters who are actively discriminated against. Good luck getting your precious little Achievements when it is YOU who is persecuted.You were pretty believable up to this point, but this paragraph has GOT to be fake laugh
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Last post: 09 Apr at 22:40
Posted on 06 September 12 at 02:51
There is a real bad tendency of players that I've seen on this site to only care about the achievements a game has rather than how fun it will be. Can anyone deny that several people have also decided NOT to play a game based on achievements? There is a real issue here, I think.

I realize that I am saying this on an achievement based website, and I do also realize there's plenty of people who are helpful on this site as well and who do actually play for fun. So, this guy making blanket statements doesn't help at all, but to call him a troll because he's upset at how achievements and boosting have ruined some of the games he's played is pretty assinine.

I've seen this happen. Bioshock 2 is a great goddamn example because 90% of the people who have been playing it over the last year only use the turret hack method and those same people complaining about how unfun and unnecessary the multiplayer was are ALSO the same people doing the turret hack. Does that mean they are all from TA? Nope. But it amounts to the same thing, people boosting making it harder to find an actual game to play against people. FoC has been out only two weeks now and already people here only care about boosting the MP. Ultimately it means that for the next few weeks we'll put up with people boosting Conquest and than that population will die down some until more DLC causes MP achievements.

When I joined this site I did care about achievements and completion percentage a lot. And then I got a job and realized how short my time really is. Will I persecute people who only care about achievements? No. But all I'm saying here is there has been a unreal focus on achievements only and not gameplay. Judging a game based only on its achievements seems silly to me, though in this case if someone doesn't play a game for its achievements then they aren't part of the MP.

I imagine my statements here will villainize me within the community, but I don't care. We can like achievements all we like but to say they haven't at all changed how we play games is I think at best being extremely naive.
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Psymon100
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Posted on 06 September 12 at 02:56
This should be a logical, civil discourse to discuss and possibly refute the position put forward by CoziestParasite. Let's not turn it into a personal attack against anyone despite their contrarian view.
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Ueki420
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Posted on 06 September 12 at 03:32, Edited on 06 September 12 at 03:46 by Ueki420
Here is the problem...I pay for Xbox live..and I pay more than you (I have multiple Xboxes) and I HATE HATE HATE 90% of multiplayer. I have enjoyed quite a few games multiplayer (me and a buddy played ME3 MP for 8 hours straight one day for example). Also, take into account that some people are active boosters in the fact that they ONLY PLAY TO BOOST (ratio/tascore/gamerscore whatever) and what YOU are doing is saying "Fuck all you boosters and even though you pay for Xbox Live the same as anyone else who does you don't deserve to have FUN the way YOU want to." YOU SIR ARE A SELFISH FUCK WHO NEEDS TO STOP COMPLAINING! OOOH MY GOD THIS DEAD COMMUNITY ONLINE HAS BOOOOOOOOSTERS AND NO ONE ELSE PLAYING....WAAAAAAAH. Get over yourself because 98% of games WITH multiplayer have DEAD SERVERS THAT NO ONE PLAYS ON EXCEPT BOOSTERS!

You are doing nothing but acting like a spoiled child and if I was your parent I would slap the shit out of you for being so self centered and hating on the fact that boosters should get to play the way they want to and have fun. Would I want to play 867 matches of Legendary to get a buggy ass achievement? Not without boosting! It took me 22 hours of BOOSTING those matches in the fastest manner possible to obtain that achievement. I hope you get a red ring and a computer virus because you need to sit alone by your damn self and contemplate what you've just said to a community that has helped me COUNTLESS times.

I myself have been asked to help with many achievements (virals mostly but the GOAT from Table Tennis) and I had someone ask me to let him get the GOAT because he had been on a "waiting list" for I don't know how long. I helped him get his achievement and just a few minutes of my time and while I love ratio and my TA score I will NEVER tell someone that I can't help them (unless I really can't lol) because I'm not a selfish little shit like you. Please realize your not the only person in this world and if you can't find a match that has no boosters then use your brain power and REALIZE NO ONE ELSE IS PLAYING THAT PIECE OF SHIT GAME. Ignorant ass people like you piss me off and if I knew you personally I would punch you in the mouth for speaking out of nothing but frustration that you can't play a game the way you want because NO ONE PLAYS THE DAMN GAME.

That being said I apologize to the people who have read my many run on sentences without proper punctuation as I allowed my fast fingers to rant off my view at someone who cannot think before they speak. I love TA and while not everyone is an awesome person (I know a few douches) this site is full of gamers that help each other out and enjoy gaming the way that they want to.

That being said, I am sorry that you cannot find a match for game that has dead servers. I wish you could play the way you wanted to play, but the fact of online gaming is older games eventually fade into memory. I never got to enjoy Singularity MP before died off and I wish I had played, but DO NOT hate on someone for playing the way they want to play. Your not the only gamer out there and for boosters randoms ruin the way that they want to play. Next time you want to rant think about what you type before you type it. Or hell just type it to yourself on MS Word or Notepad where no one has to read you whining like a 5 year old child because they can't get their way.

toastto EVERYONE on TA (including the above ranter) and try to have a pleasant day. Remember your not alone in the world and just because you can't have it your way doesn't mean you should just start ranting off hate to us, especially because YOU are a part of a site that is designed for BOOSTERS and you just wanted to sound off because you could not get your way and you cry like a child.

If anyone needs help with any games feel free to send me a message and I will gladly help out with anything I can whenever I can!

Ueki

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Posted on 06 September 12 at 03:37
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Last post: 13 Apr at 08:47
Posted on 06 September 12 at 03:38
That was a mouthful Mason... Anyways...

You covered good points, you showed how boosting has a purpose, and most importantly, how people can play the way they want to on a service they pay for.

Good job Mason.
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Ueki420
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Posted on 06 September 12 at 03:41
Props to anyone who likes my post!
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Posted on 06 September 12 at 03:55
Ueki420 said:Props to anyone who likes my post!To bad you can't like posts. I wouldn't have apologized to the donut puncher though. He should be condemned to having to watch someone knit something that isn't there for the rest of eternity for saying what he said and attacking the community like he did.
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Last post: 20 May at 18:19
Posted on 06 September 12 at 04:05
Just one question: if you hate this website and its members so much for ruining your online experience, then why the hell do you have games in your boost request list?