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Posted on 02 May 11 at 20:52 |
zigs00 said:Section 8: Prejudice (PC) is the Games for Windows version, so needs (PC) at the end. Genre is Shooter, not Special, and the rest of that section is identical to the XBLA version: Section 8: PrejudiceFixed it up!
JMJimmy said:What determines the URL for a game?
ilomilo-xbox-360.htm = WP7 version
game.aspx?gameid=3397 = Xbox version
others have special characters stripped instead of converted, etc. Is this information entered manually or by automated script?This is not entered manually, I guess when the game is picked up for the first time it's automatically generated. All games can be accessed via the game.aspx?gameid=XXXX form, but I'm not sure what determines whether it gets the other form. It's got nothing to do with special characters being in the title, judging by various examples (FFXIII, etc). |
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Posted on 02 May 11 at 21:03 |
I have a few gameid questions too. I like to alphabetize N0RVY's List of Unplayed Games so I try and use the game-title-360.htm url, rather than the gameid url. Usually, you can click on the title on the game's page to get the game-title-360.htm url, but these two don't work like that:
Scene It? Bright Lights! Big Screen!
Singularity
Any ideas why? |
Last post: 18 Sep 11 at 13:56
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Posted on 02 May 11 at 21:28, Edited on 02 May 11 at 21:32 by zigs00 |
N0RVY said:I have a few gameid questions too. I like to alphabetize N0RVY's List of Unplayed Games so I try and use the game-title-360.htm url, rather than the gameid url. Usually, you can click on the title on the game's page to get the game-title-360.htm url, but these two don't work like that:
Scene It? Bright Lights! Big Screen!
Singularity
Any ideas why?They're both games with regional variants, so my guess is that on Xbox.com the different versions have the same name. So the first one to gets scanned on TA automatically gets the name-xbox-360.htm, but then when the second gets scanned, the site can't give it an identical name, so it doesn't get assigned a xbox-360.htm url, just the gameid one.
That would be my guess, as to the best of my knowledge, those .htm urls all have the default names from Xbox.com.
Could be totally wrong, but it's a hypothesis seemingly backed up by this url: http://www.trueachievements.com/Scene-It-xbox-360.htm |
Last post: Today at 04:50
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Posted on 04 May 11 at 19:27, Edited on 04 May 11 at 19:32 by JMJimmy |
This should really be changed for the -xbox-360.htm variants.
1) xbox-360.htm is not the correct platform for PC/WP7
2) Regional variants don't get them
3) Special characters are removed instead of URI encoded.
What I would suggest is:
take a game's manually entered title (or default title if no manual entry is available), encode it, tag on the correct platform along with .htm
That way you can have Scene It? Bright Lights! Big Screen! as /Scene-It%3F-Bright-Lights!-Big-Screen!-xbox-360.htm vs Scene-It%3F-BL!-BS!-(GER-Ver)-xbox-360.htm as well as ilomilo-xbox-360.htm becomes the Xbox version and ilomilo-wp7.htm becomes the WP7 version. (This will become more important as more versions of WP come out... there's already rumblings for WP8)
Edit: One down side is that any links posted prior to a title update would become invalid so TA would have to code something in to update any references to the old one. I'm with Norvy - it's really not fun trying to alphabetize JMJimmy's Blog when they are the gameid=XXXX |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: 29 Jan at 12:46
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Posted on 04 May 11 at 19:30 |
JMJimmy said:This should really be changed for the -xbox-360.htm variants.
1) xbox-360.htm is not the correct platform for PC/WP7
2) Regional variants don't get them
3) Special characters are removed instead of URI encoded.
What I would suggest is:
take a game's manually entered title (or default title if no manual entry is available), encode it, tag on the correct platform along with .htm
That way you can have Scene It? Bright Lights! Big Screen! as /Scene-It%3F-Bright-Lights!-Big-Screen!-xbox-360.htm vs Scene-It%3F-BL!-BS!-(GER-Ver)-xbox-360.htm as well as ilomilo-xbox-360.htm becomes the Xbox version and ilomilo-wp7.htm becomes the WP7 version. (This will become more important as more versions of WP come out... there's already rumblings for WP8)Technically it's just "Windows Phone" - it's mainly only the UK that adds the 7 onto it, plus any future versions (8 or 9) will just be software updates to the same "Windows Phone" so we shouldn't even have the 7 in there at all. |
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Last post: Today at 04:50
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Posted on 04 May 11 at 19:36, Edited on 04 May 11 at 19:37 by JMJimmy |
| mydefposse said:Technically it's just "Windows Phone" - it's mainly only the UK that adds the 7 onto it, plus any future versions (8 or 9) will just be software updates to the same "Windows Phone" so we shouldn't even have the 7 in there at all.Canada its only "Windows Phone 7" - but I guarantee you that some of the updates will break software or at the very least WP8 games using [insert method] API call won't run on WP7. (Much like iPod 3 stuff can't be used on 2.2.3 and lower) |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: 22 Jan at 09:39
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Posted on 04 May 11 at 19:47 |
Does the url really matter that much to mess about with all this?  |
http://bit.ly/9VPrSA Games i own, want help on any PM me. |
Last post: 29 Jan at 12:46
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Posted on 04 May 11 at 19:48 |
| Spilner said:Does the url really matter that much to mess about with all this? I was thinking the same thing, it doesn't does it? |
raptr, lastfm & twitter: mydefposse
feel free to add :) |
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Posted on 04 May 11 at 20:00 |
Spilner said:Does the url really matter that much to mess about with all this? $text_uri = htmlspecialchars(str_replace(" ", "-", $game_title)) . '-' . str_replace(" ", "-", $platform) . '.htm';
This is the php syntax not vb.net but it's that quick and easy to update. It's a lot harder for people to alphabetically organize a list of games with nothing but gameid to look at |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: 07 Aug 12 at 00:11
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Posted on 04 May 11 at 20:00 |
| Spilner said:Does the url really matter that much to mess about with all this? If not for the reasons given above, it also can have an effect on SEO. |
Last post: 18 Sep 11 at 13:56
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Posted on 04 May 11 at 20:59 |
| N0RVY said:Spilner said:Does the url really matter that much to mess about with all this? If not for the reasons given above, it also can have an effect on SEO.Sony Entertainment Online? You mean this PSN downtime is all TA's fault?! |
Last post: 15 May at 17:10
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Posted on 04 May 11 at 21:04 |
| zigs00 said:N0RVY said:Spilner said:Does the url really matter that much to mess about with all this? If not for the reasons given above, it also can have an effect on SEO.Sony Entertainment Online? You mean this PSN downtime is all TA's fault?!Good work TA! Keep it up! |
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Posted on 05 May 11 at 00:33 |
| zigs00 said:Sony Entertainment Online? You mean this PSN downtime is all TA's fault?!SEO = Search Engine Optimization |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: Today at 05:37
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Posted on 05 May 11 at 02:52, Edited on 05 May 11 at 02:53 by jaganshihieiyyh |
Changing the URLs will completely ravage the content team's in-forum documentation. 
Also, this isn't really game info, but a suggestion on how to present it better, and should be in the site wishlist. |
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Posted on 05 May 11 at 05:47 |
jaganshihieiyyh said:Changing the URLs will completely ravage the content team's in-forum documentation.
Also, this isn't really game info, but a suggestion on how to present it better, and should be in the site wishlist.We're not looking necessarily to change them, but to add a descriptive url to games that lack one. Can you confirm content can't do this? |
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Posted on 05 May 11 at 09:58 |
| Yes, there is nowhere to edit the game's URL in our tools. It's done automatically and never changes once a game has been scanned. JMJimmy's proposed expression for generating names would result in changes to existing ones, unless it was only applied to those games currently without a "name URL." That would be fine, I guess, if there's an easy way to actually get a list of those without it (I'm not convinced that any of the proposed reasons for games to lack one are accurate). |
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Posted on 05 May 11 at 14:30 |
jaganshihieiyyh said:Yes, there is nowhere to edit the game's URL in our tools. It's done automatically and never changes once a game has been scanned. JMJimmy's proposed expression for generating names would result in changes to existing ones, unless it was only applied to those games currently without a "name URL." That would be fine, I guess, if there's an easy way to actually get a list of those without it (I'm not convinced that any of the proposed reasons for games to lack one are accurate).In my proposal it would include a subroutine to update any news/post/comment links whenever the title was manually changed. Again, very simple to do though slightly intensive on the database. Since titles are rarely changed beyond the first time it wouldn't be anything to worry about though. The initial script run could take place in the existing chron job for when the various titles are being updated and any subsequent changes as part of the update title script.
Without having this mechanism links that are currently incorrect would remain so and often block the correct reference (ilomilo as an example, WP7 version has the link the Xbox version should have). |
Life, it's funny that way. |
Last post: 07 Aug 12 at 00:11
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Posted on 05 May 11 at 19:50 |
| See: Games Missing Descriptive URLS |
Last post: 28 Nov 12 at 20:01
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Posted on 08 May 11 at 23:09, Edited on 08 May 11 at 23:12 by SeraphimNeeded |
Undertow
Chair Entertainment Group probably needs to be shortened to Chair Entertainment so Undertow is correctly grouped with Shadow Complex . Also, if the dual publisher thing was ever fixed, EPIC needs to be added to these. |
Last post: 29 Jan at 12:46
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Posted on 12 May 11 at 07:50 |
http://www.trueachievements.com/GR--Lunar-Lander-xbox-3....htm
Game Room - Lunar Lander (WP7)
Dev: Krome Studios
Pub: MGS
Plat: Windows Phone 7 |
raptr, lastfm & twitter: mydefposse
feel free to add :) |