Unsourced Rumors About Xbox 720 Flood Internet

Unsourced Rumors About Xbox 720 Flood Internet

Why we won't be reporting on them

Written by Dog of Thunder on 26 January 12 at 20:34

Ladies and gentlemen of TA, I am not a professional journalist. No Newshound does this job for money as we are all unpaid volunteers whom do not even get to keep copies of any games brought to us for review. Despite our amateur credentials, we hold ourselves to a very high standard of journalism. We want you to trust what we report as news; even rumors should have a firm basis in reality. We will not sensationalize news or events for the purpose of driving up page counts, or getting quoted by as many other sites as possible.

One of the ways that we attempt to achieve this standard is waiting to post stories. Once we feel we have all the important, pertinent information we will move forward and post the story with the appropriate [RUMOR] in the headline. A great example of this was the recent Resident Evil 6 reveal. Our method of handling rumors and speculation resulted in a turn around from [RUMOR] to "Here's the trailer!" in just 45 minutes. We want you to feel that anything, even rumors, posted here at TA has been sourced and verified to the very best of our ability.

That being said, let's break down the 720 pound elephant in the room courtesy of Stephen Totilo's article on Kotaku. A lot of people have been using the handy "Suggest a news item" feature right here on TA to submit this story, usually with a subject line that says "Xbox 720 to not allow used games" or "Death to the second hand games market."

This, is sensationalism and the sort of "news" that sites run when they need to bring up their page count. The actual content of Stephen Totilo's article is filled with caveats and "this is just my speculation", such as this excerpt:

It's not clear if that means that the system wouldn't play used games or how such a set-up would work. Obvious approaches—I'm theorizing here—like linking a copy of a game to a specific Xbox LIVE account could seemingly be foiled by used-game owners who would keep their system offline. My source wasn't sure how Microsoft intended to implement any anti-used game system in the new machine.It is clear that these caveats are overlooked by an onrush of "OHMYGOD! NO MORE USED GAMES!" We do not know that. Other rumors included in Stephen Totilo's article are about Blu-Ray support and smaller controllers, both of which are perfectly plausible. No one seems to care much about those rumors judging by the way various forums and message boards have blown up in the past 48 hours. Everyone is focusing on the "death of the second hand market."

Let's talk about that, but let's focus on what we do know. These are called facts and they are proven pieces of information that have been sourced, verified and can not be denied. Companies are including Online Passes on a more regular basis as a means of countering the used game market. This is true, this happens all the time. The new Xbox 720 will simply include a built in mechanism so that every game will require an Online Pass to be played over Xbox LIVE.

Or will it? Is my comment about requiring an Online Pass any different from the speculation in the original article? No, it's not and here again, is a fact. I present another quote from the original article everyone is so up in arms about:

My source wasn't sure how Microsoft intended to implement any anti-used game system in the new machineSo the real news is that the new machine may or may not include some sort of anti-used game system? Exactly how this will be done is unknown by everyone including a source real close to the project? So where's all this "death of the second hand market" stuff coming from with such certainty?

I don't know. You don't know. Stephen Totilo doesn't know as he filled his article with caveats and saying outright that he was merely speculating. That's just the power of rumor and trying to discern the unknown. Anything we post today as news regarding a new console, which certain websites have done, could be invalid, altered or a downright lie. The stance held by the Newshound team is to leave such flimsy rumors on the cutting room floor.

When we post a rumor, we believe there is something concrete to it. We do not post wild speculation from an unnamed source unless there is something else behind it. Along the same lines, we also do not post when there is a glitch with the marketplace causing a game to be free, which typically involves creating an account for a specific region, such as Taiwan.

I'll wrap this up for the "tl:dr" crowd as I believe I have made our stance clear. When reading any articles on the "next Xbox", be aware that until Microsoft says anything, it will be nothing but rumor. Could it have a system that stops the usage of used games? Will it have a Blu-Ray player? Perhaps it might even be backwards compatible with the Neo-Geo or the Atari Jaguar?

Until such time as there is an official release from Microsoft or a company working directly on the system and willing to go on the record, this is the last you will hear of the "Xbox 720" on TrueAchievements.
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wbs 101
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:36
I still think the kinect is going to keep a new console from releasing for awhile
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:37, Edited on 26 January 12 at 20:40 by Bananenbrot
I guess people want to make sure Microsoft knows what they think about it in case MS toys with the idea of implementing such a system BEFORE everything is set in stone.

Edit: Nevertheless I like the fact that you refrain from spreading those rumors even further. Nothing is better than good old hard facts.
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:38
Kotaku is doing a great job at pulling in revenue with that article though. EVERYONE is linking to it.
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:39
Very well said and I wholeheartedly agree. I always take console rumors with a grain of salt and it all ends up being completely false over time.
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:39
news!
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:40
Bananenbrot said:I guess people want to make sure Microsoft knows what they think about it in case MS toys with the idea of implementing such a system BEFORE everything is set in stone.Sadly, no. Most of what's happening is sites trying to get the inside track on search hits for certain topics. It wasn't long ago that the big rumor was tablet-based 720 systems.

MS has probably done tons of internal testing and focus groups and such to decide what's coming. They're not looking to responses to articles on Kotaku or any site to make these decisions.
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:41
wbs 101 said:I still think the kinect is going to keep a new console from releasing for awhileThing is they could make the new xbox compatible with kinect making it still useable :D
Big Ell
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:41
It's still fun to speculate about the new system. It doesn't mean people should be telling you to post rumors as stories.
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:42, Edited on 26 January 12 at 21:07 by Dog of Thunder
Bananenbrot said:I guess people want to make sure Microsoft knows what they think about it in case MS toys with the idea of implementing such a system BEFORE everything is set in stone.Which is fine! Let them know! Our very own Jayour started a petition about it I encourage you to sign to show your support (just can't seem to get the page to come up on my computer at the moment). (EDIT: Jayour hooked me up: http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-dont-implement-an-...)

The biggest issue we've had sites sent in to us as "sources" which are quoting this as "THIS IS HAPPENING!" and we don't know. It might, it might not, we don't know. It could be set in stone now for all we know.

Just don't quote it as being true, doing so is outright lying to people.
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:42
wbs 101 said:I still think the kinect is going to keep a new console from releasing for awhileThey are already talking about a new upgraded kinect also to accompany the new Xbox.
PaulTMD452
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:43
1) "Unscourced" is not a word.

2) Thank you for being more responsible with rumors than what is still, for some reason, considered a major news outlet. Kotaku's insistence on running stories filled solely with rumors without source lately, as well as their insistence on using the name "XBOX 720" despite not one word from Microsoft to support that being their next system's name, has turned me off that site, perhaps for good. Whatever journalistic integrity they may have one day had is long gone. They're now nothing but a clearinghouse for news from other sources, "neat" stuff other people did, and guesses about the future from people with no reason to be taken seriously. I've been very critical of TA's news for a while and still have some large reservations about it, but despite everything I've said about TA, Kotaku is worse.
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:44
microsoft won't block used games, especially if the PS4 is fine with it. the big retailers game, gamestation, gamestop, amazon (who make crazy free money from used game sales) can just turn around and say "we won't stock the 720 if you dont support used games, we'll just go crazy marketing the PS4".

its the same reason consoles cannot move to full digital distribution unless they allow 3rd party apps to sell games on their system. who is going to sell a console that they can't sell games for? no-one
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:46
Thanks for not reporting on this as other news articles have "sourced" that the next xbox is going to be called Xbox Infinite, ans some other crazy things. Don't need this flooding TA also until Microsoft releases the actual name/design/specs. I read a lot about it on IGNorant, and Kotaku, so not really trusting them right now.
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:46
Matrarch said:MS has probably done tons of internal testing and focus groups and such to decide what's coming. They're not looking to responses to articles on Kotaku or any site to make these decisions.I guess you're right in saying that such an outcry wouldn't influence MS's decision of implementing such a system or not. But still I think that a main motive of the outcry is exactly that: They try to make sure MS takes notice - it doesn't dawn on them that MS doesn't care / already knows how people will react.
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:47
There has been a lot of talk recently about the second hand gaming issue and whether having games that can only play on one console. The problem with this is that the true heart of gaming lies in getting together with a group of mates and playing various games from all your collections with pizza and beers. Not only will it ruin that but you can guarantee Sony would do the exact opposite to kill the competition. Its just not commercially viable.
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:47
Just don't change the controller. lol
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:49
I don't understand why Microsoft would put an anti-used game feature on a console. All that would do is hurt the gaming industry as a whole. If they put something like that the games would have to be reduced in price in my opinion.
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Posted on 26 January 12 at 20:53
I applaud the TA Newshounds for not giving into sensationalism. Really, the rumor-mongers are the ones to blame. They read the first few sentences of an article, panic and Facebook the hell out of it... kind of like users of Fox News Channel. While the rumors are the biggest problem, I have to give special shout out of "f*ck off" to Stephen Totilo for sensationalism. That's never exceptable. Kotaku is unfortunately a repeat offender of such.
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