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Lol. I like the new controller.

Hate about none of my arcade games crossing over, Hate about no backwards compatibility. Hate about 86ing avatars after they got us to like them. Yeah....HATE!!!

I'm just going to stop trying to talk sense in to people bitching about backwards compatibility and laugh at the derp conclusions some of them come to.

That's good. "Sports, sports, sports..."

That was awesome thanks!

I was ready to preorder until I heard about no backwards compatibility. I have at least 2 years worth of games to play still in my backlog.

No thanks!

no back comp will be a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people. I think with the launch line up at E3 people will change their tune.

Haha that's awesome. Could be worse. Could be One Direction

Oh God....now it is lol. Thank you for that

No problem!

I agree here with both

https://twitter.com/XboxSupport2/status/336967192799223808

https://twitter.com/XboxSupport3/status/336937800702238722

hey Ell -- start another leaderboard for not getting it and i will join.... i have a feeling it will grow in size and length

Thanks Shelf. I'll try to wait for all the details to surface. And DK, you really gotta take a step back sometimes and remember why you started gaming. Fun.

I'm sure the system will be at least $400-$500 and that's also enough to make me wait at least a year. Stupid backlog. Viva 360!

Chill. Relax. Calm down.

Ell: Completing all the achievements is fun!

I was considering picking up 3 more copies (plus another xbox) of Naruto: The Broken Bond to self-boost to Hokage. And another copy of Halo4...

My reading the the major nelson posts is that you can only INSTALL to one xbox. Any others will need the disc to start.

I thought it said you could install it to as many as you want, but you'll need to buy a new key for any but the original installation.

They have basically gone down the PC gaming route, so the game code will be assigned to your profile. Can see why EA ditched online passes now..

its seems like its xbox version of steam

I agree with Rhy. Sounds like your friends can play it on your system, you can even take it to their house but only you can play it.

Essentially discs will become XBLA games. It's the old PC one-time-code deal. Oh yeah, and they can revoke your license at any time.

Looks like I'll only be needing one console and one tag! (Except for region-locked games.) Saves me money.

Not sure about the friends playing it on yours. It looks like it's account-locked. You can play it on theirs, but only if you sign in your profile.

Thing is this can't be the reason EA did away with passes because ps4 isn't doing this so EA will still have the used game problem

Unless EA is going MS exclusive...

Looks like it has some sort of DRM that will restrict transfer of used games.

Yeah from what I'm reading you have to pay a fee to play used games once the code has been assigned to an account . This will also basically make renting games pointless.

That would be a no-go for me.

Okay, I'm seeing the articles about the "activation fee" now. So......how's the TrueTrophies site coming along?

In related news, Gamefly stock takes a massive tumble ..........

Seems the 'activation fee' is the full price of the game! I foresee MS allowing you to trade your code in for a very small discount off another game..

I'm a big fan of Microsoft but they can get fucked on restricting used games.

wow, that is horrid.

We'll see how this plays out... Pissing off their primary retail outlet in the US (GameStop) isn't good business for Microsoft...

Not to mention eliminating probably 1/3 of their customer base who don't have internet connectivity.

Today's feed is soo lulz!

Much like the press conference was filled with: sports, TV, sports, TV, sports on TV, TV with two sports at the sametime. Trending now: sports on your TV.

I don't care about sports but the other stuff looks great. and I need a Blu ray player.

i, for one, welcome our new-game-only overlords.

*I

From what I read, he's confirmed that there is a fee, and each one is licensed to a profile. You can trade it in, but you pay a fee.

I've stopped trading in games for what they offer, so it won't affect me much. However, there are people who rely on this to buy new games. Disappointing.

Did you read about the potential to have constant achievement additions? Kinda scared about seasonal achievements or achievements based on memes, etc.

For this I am glad I am not a completionist.

Who the hell knows what's "confirmed" now. This has been one clusterfuck of a "reveal". Everything's clear as mud.

They realize that their plan for "game lending" is backfiring with lightning speed and are trying to back away from it by calling it confusion.

Think about it, if they have a process for selling used games and they're not going to block the ability to lend games... when would this system be used?

Also, Major Nelson's blog post is curiously specific: "should you choose to play your game at your friends house, there is no fee to play that game"

ie: if I'm signed in on my friend's console then it'll work, but if I lend it to him and I'm still signed in at home...???

Soo check it out. You don't have to be alwas connected to the internet to play games... But you have to be connected to use your code or your game wont work.

Looks like we will always need a connection after all. What the fuck am I going to do when I deploy and have no internet??? No one can send me games to play now...

You must also check in every 24 hours

Agreed. One day maybe, but day 1? not from what I have seen.

Not a deal breaker for me at all. I went from a PS2 to a Wii to a 360. You can have more than one setup, you know ;)

You haven't met my wife it seems Lita!

Then work on talking your wife into it :P

Have warranty till May on this one and also enough that I want to play (incl. GTA5). So to buy it then is a good possibility for me.

My wife is already sold on it.

But I agree, time to get cracking on the backlog.

I'm going to hold off on buying any new games...only one I'm not sure about is Lego Marvel Super Heroes.

Hear hear. Better to wait after the first wave consoles, so I don't have to run into RROD and the like.

My wife DID say that it's a possible Christmas present depending on price.

Used Game Market has no chance to survive make your time.

/rimshot

I mean HOW ARE YOU ALWAYS-ON

Yeah, they should have had this worked out with a clear explanation. Good grief, lots of confusion.

http://majornelson.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-and-used-games/

What they said was that you can play the games so long as the profile that owns it is signed in. So no letting friends borrow it, etc. You can buy used games but it costs

$60 to play used games unless you buy them used digitally on Microsoft's store. Also, you must be connected to the internet every 24 hours otherwise your Xbox One won't

work. So yeah, fuck Microsoft.

You can take it to a friend's house... to buy it again? What if I just want to play it on a second console IN MY OWN HOUSE??

Then you M$ will sing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8NsnLfIAcs

*Then M$ will

Sorry, they will sing THIS (skip to 20 seconds in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXnFhnpEgKY

you planning on buying 2 XBox Ones at launch, Sasha? :P

I *WAS* considering it. Not anymore, unless it's for another region. Wondering if they're even going to need region-locked games anymore, though.

Totally, COD and Forza looked great to me. We'll see a load more at E3 and I'll hopefully get to play some at GamesCom too!

It is exactly what I wanted from the Reveal event. Give me a price-point and I'll pre-order. Hell, I'll even get cable!

I don't get the people who are complaining. I like the One. It will most likely be a day one purchase!

Lita: cause they took the worst of the PS3 (installing), the worst of EA (fees for used games), and the worst of Microsoft (metro) and dumped it on a 5 year old desktop

Day one purchase for me. See you on Forza people.

1) I always install my games 2) I buy new since I believe in supporting the developers 3) Metro isn't that bad. It is the look of MS products right now so makes sense.

Also I'm more interested in playing games than looking at the dashboard ;)

Do I pre order from GAME or don't I, ahh screw it I will in the morning.

I've pre-ordered from GAME. Don't trust ordering online in case it arrives late.

Lita: glad it works for you. For me 1) my hdd can't store my arcade games let alone retail 2) I support them when they price it right 3) It is. ;)

My friends are what I value. The rest is just details.

It's good to know you won't leave me behind when the next-gen comes <3

I wonder if you can keep your friends on 360 when they move onto One. Because its going to be a while before I move on with no backward compatibility.

Would you buy it Boots?

@Manifest your gamertag/gamerscore carries on, your friends are attached to your gamertag so I'd say it's a resounding yes

PENGUINS SUCK!

Well except for these guys: http://bit.ly/unb5B8

Prince: My tag is proof that I'll buy just about anything at the right price. =) But, yeah I'll get it...just not at launch.

I'm indifferent, there is only 3 games that interest me at launch, and they are available on Xbox 360, so I would probably have to see some good XBO exclusives, to buy it

i am disappointed they didn't push the reset button on gamerscore. that would have been so funny.

*I

There's a rumor the new xbox will cause penis cancer.