Point Counter-Point achievement in Batman: Arkham Origins

Point Counter-Point

Complete Deathstroke without failing a single counter

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How to unlock the Point Counter-Point achievement

  • MustangNoxMustangNox355,867
    25 Oct 2013 25 Oct 2013 25 Oct 2013
    39 9 33
    I though this missable achievement was going to be quite hard, but after a few tries I found a method that works well. All you have to do is jump over Deathstroke using AA, kick him once with X and then AA jump again. Also, every few hits (8 without upgrades) you will have an effective B+Y combo available to use.
    This way, you need to press Y to counter only during QTEs. It's even possible to finish the fight without Deathstroke throwing barrels at you (that's what happened to me).

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    NekoHenkeIf you get hit by an explosive barrel, in other words missing that cn_Y-counter, KEEP GOING! Don't restart. I got hit by one barrel but kept going to practise the fight and the achievement popped in the grab-the-sword-cutscene. I completed all the counters except the barrel one and still got the achievement.
    Posted by NekoHenke on 15 Feb 16 at 16:18
    VesperiusI used the method described here numerous times and failed every attempt. Most times after jumping over Deathstroke I was able to strike him, but sometimes he would strike back. The first time it gives you the opportunity to block his strike, but the second time he hits you no matter what you do. After a couple hours and countless fails, I tried Don Dunckel's method and got it on the second attempt.
    Posted by Vesperius on 19 Dec 16 at 01:08
    matdanThis method sucks I am sorry to say, even on easy he has a tendency to attack you after you jump over him on the sword phase.
    Posted by matdan on 27 Dec 16 at 06:26
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  • KJer25KJer25729,086
    26 Oct 2013 26 Oct 2013 26 Oct 2013
    18 0 0
    Just to clarify, this achievement might as well say to not get hit by Deathstroke. The above solutions are both great, but I was playing on normal and found the AA, X, AA method to be inconsistent. Sometimes he would counter or force me into at QTE when I wasn't ready for it. I found the best way to do this is to simply wait for him to attack you. All you really have to do is hit Y when the prompt or lines above his head come up to counter, then bash his brains in with XX. Even if you get hit, continue on with the fight to learn his patterns after his mask comes off and when he brings out his sword. For all 3 parts of the fight, however, simply wait for him to make the first move. It sounds pretty basic but it is. It will only take you a few times to learn his moveset and patterns. Again, when you get hit simply restart the checkpoint and try again. A little persistence and practice will pay off in the end, and if nothing else restarting the checkpoint a few times will force you to become more familiar with the combat systems and countering. Happy hunting!
  • Zasta 360GameTVZasta 360GameTV153,458
    25 Oct 2013 25 Oct 2013 25 Oct 2013
    17 3 3
    This Achievement is missable! If you miss it, you must start a new Game or higher Difficulty and play again to Deathstroke.

    For the success you have counter Deathstroke normal Attacks and in the QTEs (Quick Time Events), press the Counterbutton to the right time (not too early or too late)

    If you fail a counter in the Bossfight, restart over the Menu (Start Button) a new Try. The Fight has 3 Phases, in Phase 1 you have in the QTE 1 Counterevent, in Phase 2, 2 and in Phase 3, 2-3. (Keep in mind, dont forget to counter his normal attacks outside the QTEs)

    Between the Phases is another QTE, here you must press the Counterbutton very fast. (not sure is this towards to the Achievement because "Single Counter" in the Achievementdescription)

    In the Phases is also a QTE, here you have counter the throwing Barrel first with the Counterbutton and then throw it with LT+Y to Deathstroke.

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    SallyNastyAwesome, thanks. Will be using this guide this weekend!
    Posted by SallyNasty on 25 Oct 13 at 12:49
    ShabobbleJust a heads-up, the QTE where you have to counter the thrown barrel with just Y, and the QTE where you have to throw Deathstroke off his balance before he shoots you with LT+Y are separate. They CAN happen at the same time, but it's not guaranteed to happen that way.
    Posted by Shabobble on 27 Oct 13 at 22:37
    DEMON362you don't need to start a new game. I hit restart when i got hit and i still unlocked the achievement
    Posted by DEMON362 on 22 Dec 13 at 20:30
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