Hoth Battle - undefeated. achievement in LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy

Hoth Battle - undefeated.

Complete this level without dying. No Extras should be turned on.

Hoth Battle - undefeated.+1.8
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How to unlock the Hoth Battle - undefeated. achievement

  • GN0SISGN0SIS154,142
    22 Jan 2009 22 Jan 2009 22 Jan 2009
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    Terms:
    I'm betting most of you are Star War fans or have played this game enough to pick up the terms. But I'll define a few of the vehicle names used throughout this solution

    Snow Speeder - this is the rebel fighter used in the Story Mode of the game. Pretty much the smallest looking fighter and the only one that has a "cable" to hook onto bombs and tie up AT-AT's.
    Drone - This small, annoying enemy that is way too accurate and somehow has a cable in its small body to grab at your bombs and mess you up. Kill them before they slow you down.
    AT-ST - These are the smaller, two-legged walkers. You can kill them by just shooting at them. Don't waste your time trying to drag them over
    AT-AT - These are the massive, four-legged walkers. There armor can't be hurt by your bullets. You have to use the snow speeder to cable their legs, circle them several times to bring them to their knees. Then drag a bomb to them to kill them.

    General hits:

    1) Practice, Practice, Practice
    I know you've seen this on every other guide you read. For good measure I'll add "have patience" as well.
    2) Know where you are going
    Even if you die, keep going the first two times or so. Refresh yourself on the level, know it inside and out. Most importantly know where the bomb stations are on each stage, especially the last one.
    3) Don't let shinny things distract you
    Don't go after studs, mini-kits, red bricks, anything else but your goal. Don't try to get any other achievements during this run. Odds are this is one of the last achievements you are going for, but I have the warning all the same.
    4) Watch your fire
    In pretty much every other flying level, you will just hold the fire button. In Hoth, "watch your fire". There are several surfaces that bounce your bullets and you can end up killing yourself faster than the AI. Watch the white barriers and especially the AT-AT's. You need to find the balance of "fire at will" so you get the enemies before they hit you, and "friendly-fire" where you've ended up hitting yourself.
    5) Keep your heart counter full
    This is obvious but still important. With everything else going on in the level, make sure you know where you stand on hearts. While it would be great to always have 4 hearts, there are sometimes going for a heart will cause more trouble than it’s worth - learn to see these situations. If you just blew the cave entrance and are at three hearts, don't go backwards looking for one. There is fresh area ahead with hearts for you.
    5) AT-AT Strategy
    I'm assuming you've played the level once or twice [grin] and so you know how to drop an AT-AT. As you approach one, be careful of your fire. But once you’re hooked it, fire away. You need to keep the drones and AT-ST's at bay so they don't hit you. Work on finding that perfect arc on your rotation. You want a big enough circle to keep yourself from hitting the AT-AT and so you can hit the maximum number of other enemies. But not so big you break the cable.
    6) Two fighters are better than one
    Plan on using two fighters in the level - your snow speeder (for the bombs and AT-ATs) and a faster, more powerful fighter. I preferred the Tie Interceptor (what Vader flow in a new hope), but your favorite will work. I've read plenty of forums debating "the best". I don't think the Y-wing is a help here, b/c you don't need torpedoes. It is best to get your two choices "next" to each other in the rotation. Last thing you want to do is sit there switching fighters until you find you speeder again. To do this, go into the level select with two controllers logged in. This way you can select the speeder and your favorite fighter. When the level loads, drop out the second controller. No you can easily switch between both.
    7) Avoid the story
    Don't try this in story mode. One you will get sick of the intro cut scene, and two you will be stuck in your snow speeder. Like any of the undefeated achievements you can (and should) use Free Play
    8) Rip the game
    Last thing you need is a disk read error or the game to freeze right before you win. While I can't guarantee the game not freezing - I've had much better luck running the game off of the HD vs the DVD. Use the NXE feature of ripping to help you out here.
    9) No extras
    This is written in the achievement description, but make double sure you have not turned on any extras. Even extra that don't "help" you, like X2 Score, will void this achievement. Best way is to do this right after booting the game and selecting a save. When you star the game, there are extras turned on by default.

    Level Walkthrough

    1st Stage

    Use your non-speeder to clear a path to the cave entrance. You goal is to clear away the black/gray barriers, not the white ones - those can only be destroyed by bombs. The AT-ST's are a plus, but they will most likely respawn anyway. On your way back switch to the speeder and grab your bomb. Careful to avoid the white barriers (esp. at the end) and blow the cave door.

    2nd Stage
    Take out the nearest AT-AT as your first task. Then move and take out the second one. Now grab your bomb and blow the first barrier. Like in stage 1, I like to clear out the barriers before trying to get the second bomb. This stage is a little harder as you have to guide the bomb down that central ridge. Practice is the best, but if you have problems here are a few tips.

    - If you start to fall off but the bomb is still on course, let it go. Don't take it down with you and hope that either its momentum will carry it to the barrier, or it will come to rest on the ridge and you can grab it again.
    - It can be easier if you resign yourself to another bombing run and use your first bomb to clear away the white barrier in front of the bridge. This will allow a straighter approach.
    - Practice :)

    3rd Stage
    Switch to your non-speeder and use it against the first two waves. Here you can fire without too much worry of the bullets bouncing. Your barrel rolls and loops (A-button) are effective here. I'm not sure if really helped, but I would always travel in a clockwise manner and come back around to missed targets (until maybe the last one or two). I found not trying to go back and forth kept me from getting hit as often.

    When you finish the second wave you have a few seconds before the third one starts. Use this time to switch to your speeder and ready yourself for the AT-AT's. Make sure you review my tips on AT-AT's (watch your fire). Keep mental note of where you are in relation to the bomb stations - you don't want to head off the wrong way and take an unneeded hit, or worse have the AT-AT get back up.

    On the 4th wave you have all three types of enemies on your hit list. Go after the AT-AT first! During your pass around and around him, you are likely to wipe out most of your drones and some of your AT-ST's..... use the "clockwise method" to finish off the rest.

    IMPORTANT: Don't let your guard down on any one of the waves after you clear your quota. There are a few seconds before either the next wave comes, or the game ends... don't let yourself get hit or killed in during this.

    BEST OF LUCK!!!
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    RoboChap85Haha, just got this one on my first attempt, great guide! Although went with killing the peons first in the final wave as per the comments
    Posted by RoboChap85 on 16 Feb 12 at 17:34
    DarkMountDon't know if this was mentioned anywhere, but I finished this level without dying in super story and I did NOT receive the achievement sadly.
    Posted by DarkMount on 23 Aug 12 at 19:20
    TrueKilla360@Darkmount, The undeafeated achievements only unlock in story and freeplay Not super story! unfortunatly ;(
    Posted by TrueKilla360 on 25 Aug 12 at 17:36
    Vandel BusterVader flew a Tie Advanced. Not an Interceptor. /nerd
    Nice guide.
    Posted by Vandel Buster on 03 Feb 13 at 06:01
    spxyu02Great guide! I was having a terrible time with the 3rd wave of the 3rd stage (2x AT-ATs). I would sometimes get unlucky and not be able to get clean shots on the enemies surrounding me while I was wrapping up the AT-AT's legs with the tow-cable. My biggest piece of advice here is patience. If you get down to 2 (or 1!) hearts, switch over to your fighter and refill on hearts and give it another go. It will certainly be faster than restarting the level!

    When I did end up restarting over ... and over ... and over again, I found that picking the snowspeeder from the vehicle selection was better than picking the Interceptor for two reasons: 1) I was able to just grab the bomb in the first stage and fly it down to the cave wall no problem. 2) It made flipping back and forth to the Interceptor an even 5 clicks, whether I went with LT or RT from one to the other.

    Finally, careful with your dog-fighting maneuvers using your fighter in the last area. I experienced the same glitch on several tries: I would be heading out to the outer rim of the level and press down+A to do a 180, but the ship would actually drop below the level and explode (continuously), necessitating a restart. Try to do all your maneuvering tangentially/across the donut that is the last arena. Don't do anything radially out from the middle, especially near the edge. /novel
    Posted by spxyu02 on 05 Jul 14 at 05:52
    cs mesterI died in the beginning but played through the rest without dying to practice.I got the chievo relatively quick.Around 3-4 attempts.
    Posted by cs mester on 11 May 19 at 11:39
    Fristi61Took me about 12 attempts. The first 2 sections become pretty easy and quick with practice.

    The last fight is very luck-based, especially in the 3rd wave. I don't think practice helps much here, at least not without a large dose of luck.
    The problem mostly has to do with pulling the bombs. There are moments when your vehicle will come to a complete standstill as you try to get the bomb out of inertia, such as when you try to turn its direction or when you first pick it up.
    During those moments you are extremely vulnerable and can easily go from full hearts to 2 or 1, usually leaving you to get picked off by a stray shot shortly afterwards.

    Also the placement of the AT-ATs is random and can make the fight easier or harder.
    The camera angle also makes it hard to see depth in this section, sometimes causing me to miss a heart pickup and dangerously prolonging the bomb rolling process.
    Posted by Fristi61 on 26 Jan 20 at 09:03
    GsO LightI really hate the bomb shit, half the time they get stuck or I miss the AT-AT.. god why couldn't they just give a ship with the bombs
    Posted by GsO Light on 12 Jun 20 at 21:31
    BadGirlRyleighTerrific guide, got it on my second attempt
    Posted by BadGirlRyleigh on 29 Jun 20 at 23:56
    jjaldanaDoes anyone know if you play coop and the coop partner dies does that void the achievement?
    Posted by jjaldana on 14 Nov 21 at 05:03
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