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Elder Signs achievement in Halo MCC

Elder Signs

Halo 3: View 2 different sigils on Valhalla.

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How to unlock the Elder Signs achievement

  • YaziteYazite431,186
    12 Nov 2014 11 Nov 2014 23 Apr 2021
    277 17 126
    To get this one you need to view two different sigils on the Halo 3 map Valhalla. Sigils appear on special days of the year. You can do this in forge, custom games or even in matchmaking. You can only obtain ONE sigil per special day. Change the date on your console to get a second one, or wait for the next special day to come. The sigil appears only for that day, so it will not be there the day after. The sigil can be found on the far wall located behind the turret. (Video is below)

    Load up Multiplayer ->custom games or Creative -> Forge and select Valhalla

    There are two ways you can get the achievement.

    Method 1 (fastest) - The offline method - Only works with disc

    If you intend to use the offline method, it can be a bit annoying, but, it DOES work. You will not receive the achievement until you reconnect to Xbox Live and you will not receive a notification for it. It will also not appear in your achievements for a couple of minutes.

    Edit - The offline method is much less reliable than it used to be. It does still work, but it may be much trickier to register.

    How to do the offline method:

    1. Disconnect and forget your network.
    2. Restart your console.
    3. Set the date to one of the required days.
    4. Go and view the sigil.
    5. Reconnect
    6. The sigil should register when you go back online

    In addition, many users have noted that this achievement is glitchy. Make sure you stare at the sign for a good few minutes and look at it from different angels. Also try shooting it.

    Also remember to check the progress of the achievement after you have seen your first sigil. Make sure it's at 50%. If not, try again.

    Method 2:

    Simply wait for each day to come and view the sigil.

    These are the days the sigils will appear:

    (Taken from Halo wiki)

    - January 1 (New Year's Day): Make Love Not War
    - April 22 (Earth Day): A skull with a recycling sign.
    - May 5 (Cinco De Mayo): Toady Was Live!
    - July 4: BBQ at Bob's Place (this is a reference to Marathon in which you kill BOBs or BOB-B-Qing).
    - July 7 (Bungie Day): Seventh Column Symbol.
    -October 31 (Halloween): A grave stone that has the initials "R.I.P.", meaning "Rest In Peace".
    -November 11 (Veteran's Day): Kilroy Was Here.
    -December 25 (Christmas): A Christmas light with an X on it.

    An example of a sigil can be seen here:
    External image


    Thanks to Maka91 for confirmation

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    TensiveCascadeYou can't do the offline method anymore. As the game is part of the Gamepass even if you have the disk it asks to sign in with a profile that's "online"
    Posted by TensiveCascade on 06 Jul at 23:51
    EditedAardvark0You can do the offline method on PC by first quitting to desktop, changing your date, then launching MCC again to view the sigil. I viewed the 7/7 sigil on the actual day (the day of this post) and got 50% achievement progress, but when I changed my system date to 7/4 the achievement wouldn't pop until I quit to desktop, relaunched MCC, got back into Valhalla and looked at the 7/4 sigil again.
    Posted by EditedAardvark0 on 07 Jul at 14:18
    KobiMinamTrying on PC today (Oct. 31) and it took 4 tries with restarts in between to get this to register the progress. It now shows me as 1/2. I was starting to think maybe progress doesn't show for this achievement after loading it up and going to the Sigil 3 times, but finally after the 4th viewing it appeared. Now just to wait until Veteran's Day.
    Posted by KobiMinam on 31 Oct at 19:12
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  • Maka91Maka911,353,713
    09 Nov 2014 18 Nov 2014 08 Jul 2015
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    Offline Method:

    This method involves changing the date/time of your console. If you do not agree with this method, an online method is included below.

    1. Go to "My Games & Apps" > "Apps" > "Settings" > "Network" and then "Go offline" & "Forget Wireless Network"
    2. Hard reset your console by holding the power button for 5-10 seconds.
    3. Sign in and go to "My Games & Apps" > "Apps" > "Settings" > "System" and then change the date to any of the follow dates:

    January 1st (New Year's Day): Make Love Not War
    April 22nd (Earth Day): A skull with a recycling sign
    May 5th (Cinco De Mayo): Toady Was Live!
    July 4th (Independence Day): BBQ at Bob's
    July 7th (Bungie Day):
    October 31st (Halloween): A grave stone that has the initials "R.I.P."
    November 11th (Veteran's Day): Kilroy Was Here
    December 25th (Christmas): A Christmas light with an “X” marked through it

    4. With the changed date, load Halo MCC, select a custom game in Halo 3 on Valhalla.
    5. Go to the turret side and look at the white sign/symbol on the large metal wall.
    6. Go to your settings and change the date again to another one listed above.
    7. Go back into Halo MCC, and view the new sign on the wall in the Halo 3 map.
    8. Go to "My Games & Apps" > "Apps" > "Settings" > "Network" and connect to your wireless connection by selecting it and entering the password. The achievement will unlock as soon as your Xbox connects to Xbox Live.

    Online Method:

    This achievement requires you to view two date specific signs on the multiplayer map Valhalla in Halo 3. The date are as follows:

    January 1st (New Year's Day): Make Love Not War
    April 22nd (Earth Day): A skull with a recycling sign
    May 5th (Cinco De Mayo): Toady Was Live!
    July 4th (Independence Day): BBQ at Bob's
    July 7th (Bungie Day):
    October 31st (Halloween): A grave stone that has the initials "R.I.P."
    November 11th (Veteran's Day): Kilroy Was Here
    December 25th (Christmas): A Christmas light with an “X” marked through it

    On one of these days, in your local timezone, you will need to load a custom game in Halo 3 on Valhalla, and then go to the turret side and look at the white sign/symbol on the large metal wall. On the dates listed above, the sign will be unique and the achievement will unlock after viewing two of them!
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    Does not work anymore -.-
    Posted on 16 Mar 19 at 12:18
    Crazy DutchmanKids, it still works, check the recent unlocks :')
    Posted by Crazy Dutchman on 07 Apr 19 at 20:55
    BLAZERMAN2122Anyone having problems doing this normally? Tried July 4th & 11th and nothing
    Posted by BLAZERMAN2122 on 07 Jul 19 at 19:49
  • LifeExpectancyLifeExpectancy1,646,696
    12 Dec 2014 26 Jan 2015
    22 4 0
    Elder Signs - Similar to the beach sign on Zanzibar in Halo 2, this easter egg requires playing Valhalla in Halo 3 on different days. When done, different signs/sigils will appear in white paint on the grey/silver wall on the side of the map. The dates are as follows: Jan 1st, Apr 22nd, May 5th, July 4th, July 7th, Oct 31st, Nov 11th, and Dec 25th. One of these is launch day (Nov 11th) so make sure you load that up asap.

    A video just showing the location (along with two other achievements), and the dates to trigger the various graffiti images are Jan 1st, Apr 22nd, May 5th, July 4th, July 7th, Oct 31st, Nov 11th, and Dec 25th.
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