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If You Can't Beat Them in Middle-earth: Shadow of War

If You Can't Beat Them55 (20)

Dominate an Orc after he's killed you three or more times.

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aGundamDownHere
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aGundamDownHere
Achievement won on 15 Oct 17
TA Score for this game: 1,659
Posted on 16 October 17 at 01:44
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Pretty self-explanatory. You can't dominate an orc until Act II, but you can have them kill you any time. After killing you, they get significantly stronger, so you might have to humiliate him after he's killed you all three times.

Also, I'm not sure how the game determines whether the orc will humiliate you or kill you, but it seems that each orc is predisposed toward one or the other. If you get down to your last chance and the orc chooses to humiliate you rather than kill you, then they'll most likely keep doing the same thing every time. Find an orc who chooses to kill you outright rather than trying to get one to change its tune.
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I Argonaut I
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I Argonaut I
Achievement won on 10 Jan 18
TA Score for this game: 1,659
Posted on 10 January 18 at 05:05, Edited on 07 February 18 at 23:12
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In Act II, You will quickly gain the ability to dominate Captains from one of the first story missions. Once you have this ability, you can potentially get this achievement. What you may find is it is MUCH harder than you thought. Dominating an orc is not the hard part, it is dying 3 times to the same orc!

Simply letting a Captain kill you a few times and then dominating him would pretty straightforward if it wasn't for the game babying you and having another Orc intervene when you are being killed. One of your dominated Captains or an unknown "Random Savior" will swoop in and kill the Captain who is executing you. This happens much more frequently than you would like when you are trying to die. To combat this, I recommend bumping up the difficulty to Gravewalker. This means the Captain should kill you in one or two hits and you can die very easily from others so be careful. Once you have bumped up the difficulty, let a random orc kill you ONCE to be promoted, and a SECOND time as Captain. There will be a good chance that the THIRD time he kills you he will already be a Warchief or get promoted to one so be ready to perform some requirements to draw him out. Once the orc has killed you 3 times, lets abuse the difficulty settings one more time and set it to Easy just to be sure you have complete control of the situation when you hunt him again. Also be aware that when you see him for the 4th time, he will likely be too high of a level to be dominated and added to your army, you will need to dominate him and follow the prompts to Shame him (cn_Y after dominating him, to lower his level), and then you will need to probably find him a 5th time to get this achievement.

After you pop the achievement by dominating him (cn_B), feel free to put the difficulty back to Normal or whatever mode you like. Please keep in mind that even on Gravewalker, I had my execution by an orc interrupted by a Random Savior, but it was much less likely. I was saved on Normal every time (maybe 8 in a row), and then when I bumped up the difficulty, I was saved on Gravewalker once in around 5 times being executed. Trying to die in a video game should not be this hard!

One more tip that I think would be helpful to try that was mentioned by Renattooo in another solution's comments: You could try to find a Captain that has the "No Chance" perk/ability. This makes it so there is no QTE and he never encountered a savior to stop the execution. Please leave a comment if you try this and it works for you. If you cannot be saved in this way, I think it would be much easier than adjusting the difficulty multiple times but you will surely need to shame him in order to make him a level you can dominate!

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