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If You Can't Beat Them in Middle-earth: Shadow of War

If You Can't Beat Them55 (20)

Dominate an Orc after he's killed you three or more times.

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I Argonaut I
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I Argonaut I
Achievement won on 10 Jan 18
TA Score for this game: 1,641
Posted on 10 January 18 at 05:05, Edited on 31 July 18 at 04:14
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***New Update to the game that removed micro-transactions also allows you to turn off "Saviors". In the menus, turn off the setting to "Allow Saviors" and you will have no problem nabbing this anymore. Just follow the guide below. I will cross-out the details you don't need but leave them to show you the original solution and the pain the rest of us went through!***

In Act II, You will quickly gain the ability to dominate Captains from one of the first story missions. Once you have this ability, you can potentially get this achievement.

Let a random orc kill you ONCE to be promoted, and a SECOND time as Captain. There will be a good chance that the THIRD time he kills you he will already be a Warchief or get promoted to one so be ready to perform some requirements to draw him out. Also be aware that when you see him for the 4th time, he will likely be too high of a level to be dominated and added to your army, you will need to dominate him and follow the prompts to Shame him (cn_Y after dominating him, to lower his level), and then you will need to probably find him a 5th time to get this achievement.

ORIGINAL SOLUTION:

Simply letting a Captain kill you a few times and then dominating him would pretty straightforward if it wasn't for the game babying you and having another Orc intervene when you are being killed. One of your dominated Captains or an unknown "Random Savior" will swoop in and kill the Captain who is executing you. This happens much more frequently than you would like when you are trying to die. To combat this, I recommend bumping up the difficulty to Gravewalker. This means the Captain should kill you in one or two hits and you can die very easily from others so be careful. Once you have bumped up the difficulty, let a random orc kill you ONCE to be promoted, and a SECOND time as Captain. There will be a good chance that the THIRD time he kills you he will already be a Warchief or get promoted to one so be ready to perform some requirements to draw him out. Once the orc has killed you 3 times, lets abuse the difficulty settings one more time and set it to Easy just to be sure you have complete control of the situation when you hunt him again. Also be aware that when you see him for the 4th time, he will likely be too high of a level to be dominated and added to your army, you will need to dominate him and follow the prompts to Shame him (cn_Y after dominating him, to lower his level), and then you will need to probably find him a 5th time to get this achievement.

After you pop the achievement by dominating him (cn_B), feel free to put the difficulty back to Normal or whatever mode you like. Please keep in mind that even on Gravewalker, I had my execution by an orc interrupted by a Random Savior, but it was much less likely. I was saved on Normal every time (maybe 8 in a row), and then when I bumped up the difficulty, I was saved on Gravewalker once in around 5 times being executed. Trying to die in a video game should not be this hard!

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