Children of Sissna achievement in Ashen

Children of Sissna

Defeat Sissna in the Children of Sissna mode.

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How to unlock the Children of Sissna achievement

  • vSullyvSully1,045,501
    12 Dec 2018 13 Dec 2018 25 Dec 2018
    44 1 38
    Children of Sissna mode is an option from the main menu that is unlocked after defeating the third boss, Amiren and learning Shadow Walk from Silaren.
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    This game mode, which is played on a separate save file, is the same as standard mode except your health and stamina are greatly reduced compared to what you'd have normally. This makes things fairly difficult since enemies will kill you very quickly, particularly in the later stages of the game. Your AI companion is weaker than he was in standard mode, too, and dies a lot more as a result.

    In my standard playthrough, I ended up having 392 health and 260 stamina. In CoS mode I ended with 141 health and 128 stamina- that's a little more than 1/3 total health and about 1/2 total stamina. I completed all journeys so outside of maybe some more health/stamina from missed Ashen Feathers, this is what you have to work with.

    I played through most of the game on CoS mode myself and it was a slow going, tedious, and extremely frustrating experience. The final two bosses are an absolute nightmare and I'm not convinced that the 2nd form of the final boss is even possible to defeat by yourself (with an AI partner) in this mode. The saving grace is that you can engage in co-op with real players who are in standard mode and let them tank for you, but this only makes things somewhat easier.

    Based on timestamps for some of the other winners, it appears that some people completed the game on CoS mode as their first completion, which was almost certainly done by co-oping with a friend on their standard playthrough. Again, this doesn't by any means make things easy, just less insanely difficult.

    If someone does earn this achievement with strictly AI partners, I'll be impressed and shocked. Even with a standard mode partner you have to contribute enough that you constantly put yourself in situations where you can be killed in the blink of an eye, and because of the 'one revive, then dead' system, it's terribly unforgiving and borderline unfair.

    I ended up using the Cleaving Axe for my entire playthrough. There were times when I actively farmed scoria to upgrade it and improve my damage output. I tried a one hand weapon with a shield and didn't like how it felt, but feel free to experiment and see what works best for you.

    For talismans, I used Robust, Swift, Greater Vigor (swapped to Double Swig for final boss), and Steadfast. Greater Vigor only gave 8 additional health but every little bit helped. I used the Gefn's Blessing relic which builds up damage resistance over time and can mitigate any single attack once fully charged.

    Because of armor stamina penalties, I used Defiler Veil over higher defense options. I swapped to Celestial Aegis for the final boss.

    Remember that because your overall health is so low, White Sapiotes are a great healing option. Keep stocked up on them for when you need to heal less than a full gourd swig or if you run out of swigs altogether.

    Since I ended the game with 141 health (149 with Greater Vigor) and 128 stamina, I didn't need to upgrade my gourd potency beyond 162.

    I played through the game by myself up until the Seat of the Matriarch, where I had a friend on standard mode to co-op with. We made it through the dungeon without much issue but Amiren took us a few attempts. I then had to go it solo until the Palace of Lathyrus, which is where the difficulty really ramped up. After a few hours of unsuccessful solo attempts through the palace, I managed to hook up with a random player and we made it through to the Ritual Stone at the end. I immediately messaged him and we coordinated co-op for the Shadow of Ashen.

    I tried to focus mainly on adds and let my partner try to keep the boss' aggro. Adds can get overwhelming at the end and I couldn't possibly go face with the boss without dying very quickly. This only took a handful of tries before we got it done.

    Our strategy for the 2nd phase of the final boss was for me to keep a distance to avoid being one-shotted and throw Shield Maiden's spears to chip away while my friend tried to keep Sissna's focus. There's really no way to go toe to toe with her without getting decimated instantly. With him tanking, it wasn't that bad.

    I expected this to be something like a lvl 1 playthrough of Dark Souls, which I've done multiple times with little issue. This was so much harder. You just die so quickly.

    If you want to unlock this achievement, plan on finding a friend in standard mode to co-op with and even then, it's rough. Good luck.

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    D Strife 7I need help with this.
    I'm on hard mode, jut got to Sindre's View
    Posted by D Strife 7 on 08 Dec 19 at 19:33
    Rubedo URTV 666Damn, was gonna buy this game until I saw this. Now I'm having second thoughts. I was looking at this for an easier Dark Souls. Worries me seeing multiple DS vets lamenting this achievement as impossible solo.
    Posted by Rubedo URTV 666 on 25 May 20 at 00:00
    HarbringernightThis is not as difficult as DS. In truth you can practically cheese the game with crackling spears. Besides difficulty is subjective anyways so don’t let that put you off.
    Posted by Harbringernight on 25 May 20 at 00:16
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  • pomikolipomikoli340,225
    30 Dec 2018 28 Dec 2018 30 Dec 2018
    11 1 1
    This guy on YouTube called Aeraloth beat every boss on CoS by himself, solo, without taking any hits. For anyone who's struggling with a boss, have a look at his video and show him some love for this awesome achievement. All credit goes to him. He shows a good strategy for each boss.

    Talismans and gear
    Will add soon

    Upgrading weapon
    Okay, with that out the way I'll go through few strategies. You should have your weapon fully upgraded before Shadow of Ashen.

    There are few weapons to consider all found early on in the game:
    - Spiked Cudgel - one-handed - damage on +7 181-241 0% crit chance (my choice)
    - Forgone Axe - one-handed - damage on +7 137-161 30% crit chance
    - Cleaving Axe - two-handed - damage on +7 287-312 23& crit chance

    There are 2 twin sapient roots in whisperers. One located on a small island in water, and the other located to the right of the second Ritual Stone in a tower. Both require shadow walk. See screenshots below.

    Twin sapient root no.1

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    Twin sapient root no.2

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    Twin sapient root no.3
    Is located right behind the second brute in the Palace.

    Upgrading cost
    Broken (500 Scoria)
    Repaired (4500 Scoria)
    Ash Infused (9000 Scoria + 1 Sapient Moss)
    Ash Infused +1 (17,500 + 2 Sapient Moss)
    Ash Infused +2 (26,250 + 4 Sapient Moss)
    Ash Infused +3 (33,500 + 1 Sapient Root)
    Ash Infused +4 (41,000 Scoria + 2 Sapient Root)
    Ash Infused +5
    Ash Infused +6 (54,000 Scoria + 1 Twin Sapient Root)
    Ash Infused +7 (63,000 Scoria + 2 Twin Sapient Root)

    Prophet's rise
    Really hard area early on. The best way to deal with the exploding spear throwing guys is to kill them from distance using the basic spears. Takes 3 shots to kill them. Other than that, it's alright.

    The farming method I used to get Scalia.
    Outside the palace starting at the ritual stone walk up the hill. There are 2 spear throwing guys and one ninja. Keep walking up to find 2 more ninjas (1 is sitting at the edge, just push him off). walk down the stairs to see 4 enemies sitting around a fire. All there enemies grant you 800 Scalia each. Keep walking down the stair and enter the cave. Each skeleton you kill gives you 400 Scalia. No need to kill the big dude and shadow ladies around him. All this grants you around 10k Scalia.

    Crossing the palace
    Save all your exploding spears for the palace. All brutes are 2 hit kills with exploding spears. There are around 7 brutes, having 20+ exploding spears is more than enough. This makes crossing the palace extremely easy.

    Killing Shadow of ashen
    Took me 2 days, got help from a stranger. It's all about luck. Don't mind the enemies in the 1st stage, they will disappear once you enter the second stage. Extremely helpful to have exploding spears, throw it at him once he's in the middle and if he's chasing your coop partner. I tried it with a two-handed weapon first, without luck. He one-hit kills you. Shield and one-handed is the way to go in my opinion.

    In the first stage, the best time to attack her is after her aoe attack. If she flies toward you and does aoe attack there's time for 3 hits, if she does aoe without flying toward you, it's followed by 2 hit combo, you're free to hit her after. Take advantage of every other opening.
    In stage 2 the best way to kill her is using exploding spears, it takes about 50 spears to kill her. Killed her first try.
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    Rubedo URTV 666So I'm confused, you did this solo or in co-op? I thought the video you posted showed everything being done solo, but you couldn't do it solo?
    Posted by Rubedo URTV 666 on 25 May 20 at 00:02
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