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Reached Level 8 with Bad Karma

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How to unlock the Reaver achievement

  • pwnzrrpwnzrr271,995
    30 Oct 2010 30 Oct 2010 11 Apr 2012
    60 1 12
    The guides above are all great but I found this solution to be a little less hassle (but less fun) as it doesn`t require you to go on some killing spree.

    Make sure to play the game with Good karma. Just before you hit level 8 / 14 / 20 with your character save your game. Level up to get the Good achievement and reload your save. Then, go to Megaton and Moriarty`s Saloon. In the back room there is Moriarty`s terminal and if you try hacking it you`ll lose karma. Exit the terminal immediately (don`t finish the hack!) and hack again; you`ll keep losing karma this way.

    Once you`ve reached Neutral / Evil, level up to the achievement`s requirement and there`s another unlock :D

    EDIT: Another advantage to this method is that you don`t gain any XP for hacking the terminal, whereas massacring people will net you XP for the kills. This means you can get your XP bar to just before you level up, hack the terminal to the karma you want then level up, saving you time.

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    Mobius EvalonWorks excellently.

    My primary concern when I started this game back in 2012 was figuring out how to get myself neutral/evil without gaining experience, and this method does exactly that.
    Posted by Mobius Evalon on 08 Oct 16 at 09:51
    Brando83If you don't have enough Science skill for that terminal, you can go to Craterside Supply and use Moira's terminal.
    Posted by Brando83 on 24 Apr at 22:57
    creeping monteBrando83 -excellent suggestion. Totally worked.
    Posted by creeping monte on 08 May at 12:10
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  • AerodynamoAerodynamo163,030
    30 Dec 2008 29 Dec 2008
    39 1 2
    (Copied over from "Protector")

    The best advice I can offer for this achievement is to play the game Good, as it is much easier to get Bad Karma then Good Karma. When you get to Level 7, you can get the other two achievements, "Mercenary" (Level 8 Neutral) and "Reaver" (Level 8 Bad), as well.

    Upon reaching level 7, you can either get more XP until you are just on the brink of Level 8 or you can play it safe, save at the start of the level, and work towards 8 and each side of karma.

    To get karma, here are some tips:

    For Good karma, give Purified Water to the tramp outside of Megaton. He will be to the right laying on some rocks just outside the gate. You can get purified water from Wadsworth at your house. (NOTE: You will only have a house if you have completed "The Power of the Atom".)

    For Bad karma, well... this one is easy! Murder, steal, massacre, hit people, whatever you want to do.


    A friend of mine recommended saving the "Power of the Atom" quest until you reach one of the levels before those in the achievement (7, 13, 19). Once you get to the level, either blow up the bomb or disarm it, and depending on which, you will get XP and karma for completing the quest. The one problem with this is that you might not have Tenpenny Tower in order to blow the bomb up at level 7.

    Good luck!
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    Pa1ppiYou can just spam moriartys terminal for bad karma if u are close to a level up :)
    Posted by Pa1ppi on 05 May 12 at 17:04
    Sindarin EagleIt's worth noting that you will not level in the middle of a fight. So even if you're really close to level 8, you can still get either neutral or bad karma by starting a firefight in the miiddle of Megaton. Presumably you're doing this on a trash save you won't keep anyway, so just pop stims like crazy to stay alive and keep shooting at people. Watch your karma, and once it's neutral (for that achievement) or evil (for this one), duck inside a house, kill any people in the house, and wait for a couple of minutes, and you should level and pop the achievement.

    I was worried about being too close to a level to be able to use the killing people approach, so tried to spam hacking a terminal, but that took FOREVER (I had very good karma). This worked like a charm.
    Posted by Sindarin Eagle on 13 Jan 14 at 05:29
  • The GlobalizerThe Globalizer1,118,031
    12 Nov 2009 13 Dec 2009
    24 0 2

    To get this achievement, you need to reach level 8 with bad karma.

    Getting to level 8

    Straightforward enough, but there are ways to achieve this more quickly. First, avoid companions.

    Second, look out for the NPCs who request certain types of items, and then watch to see if redeeming those items provides XP. Two such "standing orders":

    * Scrap metal in Megaton. (Easy to find everywhere.)
    * Pre-war books at the Arlington Library. (Excellent per-book XP.)

    Lastly, I recommend hacking every terminal, picking every lock, and attempting (almost) every speech challenge. All provide nearly guaranteed XP, without the hassle of a fight.


    Bad karma is easily obtained throughout the game, usually through the theft of items or the murder of wastelanders, but can also be gained by simply being mean during conversations. (I particularly enjoyed making children cry whenever possible.)

    If you have a good/neutral karma and need to decrease your karma, this is easy -- go on a killing spree in Megaton or Rivet City. (Megaton is great for using the Fat Man, if you have it at this point.) This will have some obvious gameplay effects (reduced numbers of merchants to access), however, so I suggest saving the game prior to this -- go get the achievement, load your save, and then continue.

    Neutral karma can be a tough target to hit sometimes, so my suggestion is to check your karma after each murder / mini-nuke. Once you hit neutral karma, simply stop killing and run away until you are out of range of all angry wastelanders.

    If you actually need even more karma loss than that, first steal everything you see, but be careful not to be caught, as it will typically provoke a gunfight. Then go on your murder spree.

    One last note: Taking the evil path during the Power of the Atom quest will provide a lot of bad karma, so feel free to save that quest for "the right time".
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    Great Puhweehwa{{but can also be gained by simply being mean during conversations. (I particularly enjoyed making children cry whenever possible.)}}

    This made me laugh. Thanks! =]
    Posted by Great Puhweehwa on 07 Apr 10 at 16:32
    The GlobalizerHaha, it made me laugh too! laugh (The kid in Rivet City was the best, because he was such a little punk.)
    Posted by The Globalizer on 07 Apr 10 at 16:38
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