Broken Steel

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Broken Steel

True Mortal achievement in Fallout 3

True Mortal

Reached Level 30 with Neutral Karma

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How to unlock the True Mortal achievement

  • AlfindeolAlfindeol74,161
    12 May 2009 10 May 2009 21 May 2009
    54 2 3
    The Karma achievements are made significantly easier with the addition of the Broken Steel perks.

    The first step in getting all three achievements is to create three save files at level 28. The closer you are to reaching 29, the better, but at any point will work fine.

    Getting to level 30, not the karma, is actually the hardest part of these achievements. If you are like me, and reached level 20 long before the game ended and before you got Broken Steel, you have a long way to go after the added quest ends. The first things I would do is the side-quests that are offered surrounding Project Purity. Return to the Jefferson Memorial and offer to help Scribe Bigsley, who is inside the building. That will result in two decent quests. There is also a side-quest that can be accessed by hacking or a successful speech on Bigsley or by talking to the ghoul Griffon in the Museum of History.

    Once those quests have been competed, you will probably still have a long way to go. The fastest way to make up that experience is by hunting Super Mutants. After finishing the Broken Steel quest-line, speak to Paladin Tristran and ask if there is anything else you can do to help. He will offer you a reward for killing super mutants and bringing back blood samples to him. This is much easier than scouring ruined buildings for scrap metal, pre-war books, cameras or sensor modules. The National Mall and the Germantown Police station are great places to hunt mutants. Just make sure to get the well-rested bonus before you trade in the samples. 10% extra experience goes a long way in this grind.

    You can also increase the difficulty to get more experience per encounter. This is really a must if you are playing on easy or normal. The extra 15 or so EXP an encounter will really speed things up in the long run. Also remember to leave your companions at home. They are experience hogs. You won't receive any EXP from enemies that they kill.

    Once you get to 28 and have the files created, load one up and, when you reach level 29, choose Here and Now. This perk will immediately level you up again, to 30. At level 30 choose Karmic Rebalance. This will set your karma to Neutral and you will get the achievement.

    Rinse and repeat for the other karma achievements. I recommend that you don't use this method for whatever karma type you mainly play as, as it really is a waste of 2 perks.


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    OnzaAs far as grinding, if you don't have a strong inclination to other perks (and have an Intelligence of 4 or more) you can use Swift Learner to add 10% XP whenever XP is earned. There are three levels, thus XP earned can be increased by 30%.
    Posted by Onza on 08 Apr 13 at 21:05
    Warboy925three save files at level 28?? I just used 1 game save, right before I hit level 30, then I choose the good karma achievement, reloaded my save, then got the evil karma perk for the second achievement......why for the love of gosh did I not do the "neutral karma" perk at the same time is beyond me, no biggie, I needed to go back and do "Strictly Business", "Alien Archivist", and the levels 8, 14, & 20 evil and neutral karma achievements I missed out on anyways...I went all GOOD the first time, lol
    Posted by Warboy925 on 07 May 14 at 07:30
    Shadow XBLI don't have Here and Now available. Maybe I already used it and it's a one time use?
    Posted by Shadow XBL on 19 Mar 15 at 05:15
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  • MissFuchsiaFireMissFuchsiaFireThis gamer has had their achievements removed from the site
    22 Oct 2010 26 Apr 2011
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    This is just an easy way to level up. I didn't discover this cheat, and I don't know who officially did, but this helped me get my last couple levels after I completed the game. I hope it helps others, too. See the video below.

    As for reaching rank 30 with Good, Neutral, and Bad Karma, refer to the other solutions. They are very detailed and helpful.

    METHOD: Have at least 2 Frag Mines with you and enter the Craterside Supply in Megaton. Throw your Frag Mine against the wall and quickly pick it up over and over again. You will get 6 experience points every time. It is a bit tedious, but it definitely adds up, and is very helpful when there isn't much left to do in the game to earn XP.

    If the man leaning against the wall on the other side walks away, just pass time (by pressing the 'back' button) and wait until the next morning and continue. I suggest saving regularly in case something goes wrong.
  • Mickey BurnsMickey Burns370,203
    11 Feb 2011 10 Feb 2011 17 Aug 2012
    17 0 1
    You can easily glitch your way to any level … starting after you first leave the vault.

    First, travel to Megaton and speak to Walter. Find and repair the three leaks around town (Crimson Drifter has pointed out that you must have a Repair Skill of 30 or higher to fix the Megaton leaks). If you like, feel free to complete “Power of the Atom” (if you do, you MUST disarm the bomb). Sell most of the things you carry … except for some weapons and ammo.

    Second, collect any scrap metal you find, as much as you can carry (so long as it is an even amount). The more you have for the next part, the better. Additionally, through your search for scrap metal and the locations necessary, try to stay neutral or good, and allocate any points awarded from leveling up into sneaking.

    Some decent places to gather scrap metal are the Robco Factory (located south-west of Megaton) and a wandering seller named Tinker Joe who occasionally appears outside Robco, as well as the Meresti Train Station (where you find the Family in “Blood Ties”).

    Next, make your way to Fort Independence and look for Protector Casdin. You can sell this guy your scrap metal 2 pieces at a time. This is where the glitch begins. To save frustration, save after every step. For the sake of argument, I will use 48 pieces of scrap metal as an example.

    Step one: Sell every piece of scrap metal you have on you. (48 pieces)
    Step two: Pick his pocket and steal it all back. DO NOT GET CAUGHT.
    Step three: Sell all but 2 pieces of scrap metal back to him. (46 pieces)
    Step four: Again, pick his pocket and steal all of the scrap metal back, in addition to his rifle. HE SHOULD CATCH YOU (and hopefully not attack you) AND TAKE ALL OF YOUR SCRAP METAL AWAY.

    Technically, though it doesn’t appear in your inventory, you have unlimited scrap metal (provided you got the glitch to work). DO NOT pick up any more scrap metal, or it will end the glitch.

    Immediately, head to Megaton and see your pal Walter. Sell him all of your scrap metal, which awards you XP, and you can repeat the transaction as many times as you wish until you level up to your desired level. STOP AT THE LEVEL PRIOR TO THE LEVEL NEEDED FOR THE ACHIEVEMENT.

    Now, make a few saves for evil, neutral, and good. Depending on your current status, you will need to either gain positive karma or negative karma.

    Negative karma is easy to attain. Murder townsfolk (DO NOT MURDER WALTER) and steal things.

    Positive karma is a little harder to attain. You can donate to the churches in Megaton or Rivet City (provided you did not kill the priests) or give your purified water to the beggars outside of Megaton and Rivet City. If you have the house in Megaton, Wadsworth will give you some purified water.

    Return to Walter in Megaton after reaching your desired karma and sell more scrap metal to level up once more to unlock the achievement. Continue to level up for the remaining karma/level based achievements. Load the other saves to pursue the other karma options.


    Sometimes when you try to pick Casdin's pocket at Fort Independence and steal back your scrap metal, he will attack you. This doesn't always happen ... but if it does, one or more of the following may remedy the situation (all according to research and/or trial and error):

    1) Some suggest if you have open quests he will attack. I cannot confirm or deny this, but it seems ludicrous.
    2) Some suggest if you do not have enough rep with the Outcasts he will attack. Credit to Antonysj who had this problem and his solution was to "[give] him some power armour and laser rifles, this was slow so I just went to the alien crash site and salvaged the alien blaster and ammo and gave that to him, instantly making him trust you. You can then pick the alien ammo back, and (providing you have the Broken Steel DLC) get another alien blaster later." Thank you, Ant, for providing a tried and true solution.
    3) Some suggest that you do not attempt this glitch at too high a level ... I have no idea why.
    4) Some suggest to steal the key in Casdin's possession rather than his rifle ... there are reports of players not being attacked, yet still being caught, while stealing the key. IIRC, my character had to steal everything in Casdin's possession in order to be caught, and I was lucky to not be attacked.
    5) Some suggest that if you have previously met and killed off any Outcasts prior to attempting this glitch, Casdin will attack ... which makes sense.
    6) Some suggest that karma is key ... if you're good, you're golden; if you're a bad boy, forget about it.
    7) Finally, some suggest that your CHA stat will influence whether or not Casdin will attack ... the higher your charisma, the better your odds, and if it is below 4 or 5 you can forget about success ... which makes sense because your charisma determines how people react to your character.

    What I suggest:
    First, try and steal the key and see if that works for you. If not, well, you have a plethora of options. Examine your karma and CHA and see if you can improve them. Think back to any random people you killed .... were they Outcasts? ... and you can always do like Ant did and fork over some power armor and laser rifles to improve Casdin's disposition towards you.

    If those seem to fail you, revert to an earlier save ... which could mean a "right-out-of-the-vault" save, and follow my guide to the letter. If that fails, well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but some people online have even said they have had to start a new game completely ... which basically means you would have to play through the vault again. In any instance, whichever course of action you decide, be sure to allocate those points and perks into things that will aid you in this specific task ... charisma, sneak, stealing, strength (the more scrap you can carry, the better!), etc.

    Good luck!
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    DethfuseAwesome guide. Worked wonderfully. Just wanted to let you know that using a Stealth Boy when trying to steal the items back is probably the best way to go. I managed to steal them all back with no points invested into sneak or stealing. Anyone who needs to find a stealth boy, there is one along the wall outside of megaton to the south. It is a rock surronded by three smaller trees compared to other trees nearby, there are also usually animals of some sort near it.
    Posted by Dethfuse on 23 Aug 12 at 18:41
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