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Is Jealous Governor TOO powerful?

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Villard
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Villard
Posted on 06 December 18 at 21:28
Controversial one here maybe and I'm actually sitting on the fence here.
Is Jealous Governor too powerful?
Like many I have the big tittied JG in my deck and she's definitely helped me nail some Torment 18 maps, but ranking battles now win or lose seem to me to have heavily swung towards luck rather than the daily grind of building a deck shuffling and enchanting steadily up the leader board. Sure, JG has vulnerabilities but if you get lucky quick and cull the opposition Guv'nor and scratch her from the cemetery, you're likely to win. And yeah there's always been a bit of luck in this game but JG for me has increased the luck factor a bit TOO much. And if you have 2 of these buxom beauties (i dont) you might just be invincible.
Am I complaining? Not quite. But maybe taming her skills a tickle could make challenging the top 20 less of a lottery.
I stupidly ignored Dark Ranger in an event the other month, but seems to me a fullish battlefield up against a JG and then having the Dark Ranger enter and null all enemy skills is a cool tactic against the JG tank....
Anyone else got any tactics on how to kill this minx?
Carlton Slayer
Posted on 07 December 18 at 08:58
I ran across a deck with 2 JG and was able to handle them so yes- there's still a bit of luck. Notice how JG only reacts to cards that are above it? If it's the 3rd card and you have 5 cards out your 4th & 5th cards can act normally. It's also still vulnerable to Silence, Confusion, Exile and my favorite, Magic Erosion (which is why my main deck has 2 Cloris). I did run into a deck that someone had managed to give JG Resistance on only 8 shuffles (either they got very lucky or something else is going on, as Resistance usually is only available as a 4th skill alter 10 shuffles...) but for the most part I'd say that most decks can contain enough different cards with skills that affect JG to not make it THAT fearsome....
Skode
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Skode
Posted on 08 December 18 at 01:05
Actually it reacts to EVERY card that's faced with an opponent. Only ones free to directly hit the hero cannot be countered by her. It's why she's deemed so powerful as with her taking all the abuse its hard to remove opponent cards and thus not be countered by her. She is a meta changer alright (as is Princess Sakura).
MA3LSTR0M808
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MA3LSTR0M808
Posted on 08 December 18 at 01:08
I think she is to be honest. But only commented because OP said big tittied JG. Coming to a lifesize anime body pillow soon laugh
MemoriesOfFinal
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MemoriesOfFinal
Posted on 08 December 18 at 10:03
Jealous Governor is really overpowered. When the player wishes their own cards could skip their own attack phase, then its a faulty card. To be fair, Lies of Astaroth is an extremely faulty game right now with the only thing keeping "metas" in check is the OP cards get countered by other OP cards. Even with all these OP cards though, this game would be healthier if Jealous Governor didn't exist. Its an uphill battle if you don't own the card and face someone that does.
MasterDeath86
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Posted on 18 December 18 at 10:20
Big titty card can be eathere are many wayssyExiled or destroyed or trapped so, yes is an op card but there are many things for counter her
To be honest , you can easy exile them
Skode
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Skode
Posted on 18 December 18 at 12:11
MasterDeath86 said:
Big titty card can be eathere are many wayssyExiled or destroyed or trapped so, yes is an op card but there are many things for counter her
You throw the word "easily" a lot especially when it comes to exiling cards. That's not the case really - if you've got to build a counter deck just specifically to beat a select handful of cards then it's too powerful a card.

It's simply too unbalanced for PvP because of these daft abusable event acquisitions behind cards like it. A minority get said cards and are vastly at better standing Vs those which do not. Nobody is using her as a special card in specialist decks - she fits on ANY deck with zero synergy required.

I've stated Princess Sakura as the other biggest offender of being a meta changer as it's simply far too powerful for its costs and abilities but you can get it via PvE, that's fair so in theory any player can access it. Jealous Governer? Not the case. Events need to stop giving out strong cards based on ranks, it's abusable and it's unfair and in saying this as some who regularly BENEFITS from them.

Level 93 accounts are regularly beating the shot out of level 124 ones - the hell is that? Oh, they've just min maxed their far less points to use with just all the OP cheese and low and behold they win with ease despite having put in what's prob hundreds of hours less it takes to get to that kind of level grinding. The games very very unbalanced, it's fine in PvE (not fun but fine) but PvP it's created a humongous widening gulf between even say the top 50 to the rest of the top 100.

No surprise to see accounts like Niceboats top of the boards when it's one which abuses dummy accounts and often has entire events reward tally already done and dusted in the first 2 or 3 days finishing well ahead for instant 2x the card rewards and boost in gems. They really need to address the acquisition methods of the cards, it's simply not fair - not on new players and it's already an uneven playing field. I've seen screenshots where she's had 32 THOUSAND health from just blocking everything... Easily exiled is hardly an appropriate a term indeed.
Carlton Slayer
Posted on 18 December 18 at 21:50
Is JG powerful? Yes. Can it be beaten by most players? Yes and I'd say that they have the cards available to do it (I'd also say that the one player that posted the 32,000 HP JG is in a max clan most likely). JG is like a lot of the more recent cards in that it has great effects but it's still vulnerable to skills like Magic Erosion, Confusion, Silence and Exile. I'd wager that most players of at least a year's duration would have a handful of cards with at least 1 or more of these skills. It can certainly be bothersome (especially if it gets Resistance as a 4th skill) nut I don't think it's the game breaking hurdle that you present.
Skode
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Skode
Posted on 19 December 18 at 09:05
If she wasnt OP then why is every owner of her using her. Often 2 of her?

She's there to complete control your opponents offense often decimating it with counter damage which ignores defensive traits such as max recieved damage all whilst mass healing her for it. Fine you say? I'll lacerate her to stop her healing... No said she ignores that too. We still think she's balanced?

Confuse her? Freeze her? Stun her? She doesn't care, she offers zilch on offense she's just gonna tank an entire team till they do something about that one card ie her regardless of all that CC even if every turn. That leaves silence which is for majority situational to apply to specifically her without your silence dealing cards getting blown up themselves or exile etc... In which because she's a super tank if likely only card or 2 in graveyard at start of turn so are perfect for guaranteed reanimation or are right back into the deck via reincarnation and being a 4 turner is often top fodder for any chain of Nebula that EVERYONE has en masse these days.

Magic erosion? That could work if your quick enough - cards with that are often dead in a turn or 2 but there in is the problem. She's too great at sustain they're often not enough to kill her high hp without being dead to rights by first attack on them after she's mass countered them directly multiple times with retaliation damage thanks to their physical attack and that of their side allies.

Why does she retatiate twice for so much sustain? Why is she immune to anti heal via drain soul when it's not specified on the card? Does she she needs super retaliation to hit three targets at once instead of just one?

There's loads of ways they can nerf her without killing her usefulness but as is I'm with the topic poster, I'm using her (of course) but she's a bit OP. Shuffle her nice and she's even worse - no card has dominated the meta quite like her. God help up when the likes of Arrogant Queen get released too.
Villard
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Villard
Posted on 19 December 18 at 22:10
So what have we learned here ladies and gentlefolk? The Jealous guvnor is arguably too strong but she has got a pair of cracking norks.
Carlton Slayer
Posted on 19 December 18 at 22:23
I hardly have the greatest PvP deck, and I've exactly 3 cards with Chain of Nebula (2 of which are Princess Sakura) but only use 1 of them. I've beaten decks with 2 JG in them- granted there was more than a bit of luck involved but still, I did it. If anything, Map 19 tells me that Silence would be the best way to deal with JG, followed by Exile, Teleportation and Destroy (assuming it doesn't have resistance as a 4th skill). I'd wager that most players of this game for any length of time could make a good start towards putting together a deck that features all of the above skills and that would also have a high chance of surviving. I'm not saying it isn't a powerful card- I'm just saying that it isn't so powerful that it can't be beaten by most players with cards that have the above skills...
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