Why does the base game have more then 1000g

Why does the base game have more then 1000g

It's flagged wrong on TA there's a day one DLC that costs money as well

Day 1 paid DLC is BS. That's should be a video game crime.

xNeo21x said:This is Rebellion Games: get used to it.

Day 1 DLC. Also known as the pre-order bonus. Also its available in the season pass, quit whining about nothing...

Acurate Bob said:Whining about nothing?? You are the exact player/reason why the vast majority of the industry took this shitty money-driven route of dlcs/season passes/extra content to another level.
Releasing a paid dlc the exact same day of the game release it's criminal: period. That means the content was of course done and ready so why not include it in the game in the first place?

You know, like many years ago when a game was actually done and released with all the existing content and eventually, if it did very well devs would have thought wether to make more content if possible.
Not like nowadays, where they voluntarily cut content knowing it will be released later and maybe in multiple doses just to milk all the gamers seen as cows (and even if not ready from the release of the game, they already have a schedule of doing that in the upcoming months).

And it doesn't matter if it's just 2 bucks, 10, a grand, if it's a pre-order bonus etc..it's about the underlying principle of it.

The attitude of you sheep-gamers is so pathetic because all you do is attaccking/mocking people who don't like and disagree with this business model (you know, everyone is free to have a personal opinion) so you can subconsciously justify yourself being a sheep

I Boz l said:Sniper Elite V2, had day one DLC as a pre order bonus. Guess what, it it was free when you preorder it.

Sniper Elite 3, guess what DLC it had, yep pre order bonus DLC, and again it was free if you pre ordered.

Sniper Elite 4 had a pre order bonus, and yet again it was free if you pre ordered.

If you didn't pre order, why would you get the bonus that people haven't paid any extra for, if you didn't pre order you don't get it, but since its in the season pass, you litteraly have no argument here.

Again, quit whining about nothing. DLC is not a new concept, neither is pre order bonuses. Also just a quick FYI, this was the first Sniper Elite title I didn't pre order, chiefly because of it being on Game Pass.

Acurate Bob said:Because maybe like me he comes from a time when none of this nonsense existed? It is incredibly scummy to have a whole amount of content taken from the completed base game to use as DLC. It's like watching a tv show on a streaming service but needing to actually buy the full series to watch all the episodes. But instead you have the first 9 episodes and have to pay an extra amount for something you've already paid for by buying it not the "proper" way.

Inv1s1bl said:The DLC is not taken anything from the base game. The base game hasn't changed because the DLC exists. The DLC is not hinted at, or there was reference to it so you miss literally nothing. This is pre order bonus that is available in the season pass. There is no argument here. If you want the extra content and didn't pre order the game, you dont get the bonus. But it's still available in the season pass if you don't want to spend extra for it.

And I wouldn't say it's like the streaming a show at all every "episode" for SE5 is there. You have the full season. If you want more, then you buy the next season? Doesn't buying season 1 mean you should get season 2 and 3 and 4? Or do the creators not deserve the extra funds because you paid for the full season before it?

Inv1s1bl said:Mate...it's time wasted, trust me. He'll never understand regardless of his age/experience.
The reply he wrote is just a confirmation since he didn't get the point of the matter and just wrote nonsense that adds nothing to the conversation.
Just like i said, they will only attacck/mock people who disagree with this business model so they can subconsciously justify themselves being a sheep and feel good about it

I Boz l said:Im not attacking anyone. You guys are making out like you are entitled to content that is not a part of the original version of the game. Just because items are ready day one, as most pre order bonuses are, doesn't mean you can just have it.

Also just so you know, I didn't pre order, didn't buy the game and will pick up the season pass eventually and enjoy the extra content it provides. I still have the full game to play.

Acurate Bob said:OK, giving this a shot and expecting it to have no effect....

You are completely missing the point of the argument.

They aren't saying "I'm entitled to free content". They are saying the game is developed from day 1 with the "extra content" in mind, with the sole purpose of holding it back in order to increase profit. It's a sign of the gaming industry being worth billions of dollars and now being driven by investors seeking to get richer instead of by people who want to make good games.

DLC originally came from the fact that games had to "go gold" well in advance of the actual release date to allow time to manufacture the physical editions and get them to retailers. That left the developers with time to start work on additional content or flesh out ideas that came up during development but couldn't be implemented in time for launch - then they would continue to commit resources to develop it if the game launched well, and it would be released months later when it was finished.

Once DLC caught on, the studios realized they could just trim content out of the game and lock it behind a paywall to sell it later. Some were also dumb enough to let the cat out of the bag by having that content present on the physical disc at the time of release, and the "DLC" was just a key to unlock it - meaning that it was done and fully ready when the game went gold. Thus "Day 1 DLC" was born.

So while they could be making more content for the base game, they instead split their team into "base game" and "Day 1 DLC" teams and develop them in parallel so they're both ready on launch date. The resources working on DLC could instead be working on the base game to make it bigger/better/more content rich (and actually work properly), thus giving the consumer value for money. Instead, they combine it with the original "preorder cosmetic bonus" concept and use it as a way to get more people to pay full retail price and start collecting revenue before the game even launches - thus giving their investors more return on their investment.

The newest tactic is to bait people into buying the game by triggering their FOMO with "free" pre-order content, and then turn around and immediately offer that content to others for an extra fee. This is essentially charging more than the retail price of the game for what really could have/should have been part of the base game at the time of release - while at the same time screwing over people who pre-ordered thinking they were getting exclusive content as a reward for their support.

You finished? Need another paragraph of boring things that's trying to change the point...

Fact is my dudes, its DLC that has NOTHING to do with the base game. It is additional content that was a bonus for pre ordering the game. The pre-order was the exact same retail amount, so how exactly did it add to the overall profit it made? Zero. If you buy it, you either buy it when it releases or get the preorder before hand. Either way you paid say 50 quid for it. But if you got a pre order, then enjoy your bonus! This is not new and has been the case for every Sniper Elite game, except the first one which was a surprise hit with us OG Xbox and PC players.

So keep on whining about feeling like your entitled to the content just because it was ready day one. Since it was a bonus for pre orders, it should have been...

Acurate Bob said:"Maybe if I don't quote him, he won't realize I'm trying to be a tough guy on the interwebs when I'm really just a moron."

Should have realized what I was dealing with when a player describing himself as accurate can't even spell accurate correctly....

Didn't directly replay simply because of the sheer length of the word salad you serve, it wouldn't even fit on screen without the need to scroll the length of a LOTR book just to say," I'm too cheap to buy it so just give me it..."

And as for my name, there is a story to that, and it's so commonly expected to my spelling it wrong, instead of there being an actual reason...

You know, you two can disagree on how it should work but it takes some serious effort to be rude to one another.

If neither of you can't be nice, it's probably best to not say anything at all. You're not changing anyone's mind except about your characters.

Here's the sum of your arguments:
1) It was already ready day 1 so it should be included. That's fair. It's clearly a money grab to withhold a single mission and charge what they charged. I'm not sure if it was a pre-order bonus or a season pass bonus but it was greed. That sucks.
2) DLCs are a thing, get used to it. That's also fair. Whining about something that happens on every major game release is pretty silly. It's not going to change. Season passes need content. More importantly, season passes are extremely popular and the extend the life of a game that would otherwise go into sustain mode.

You're both right and yet you're inability to see the other's point turned you both into jerks.