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Poll: Are you happy with the final Games with Gold line-up?

DubstepEdgelord3,316,398

Posted on 06 August 23 at 04:05
Inertial Drift is fun but challenging, yet to try Blue Fire but looks good, even though I personally did not care for much of this year's gwg this was a great way to end it.
I finally changed this thing and have nothing important to say. Not like anyone is going to read it...
deathchicken101,664,920

Posted on 06 August 23 at 05:08
A Dank Sloth said:
deathchicken10 said:
You should really play Inertial Drift. In short amounts, right after smoking some green, it's a sublime experience.
AHing with some jazz cabbage is bread and butter
This guy gets it
My B3st Friend318,801

Posted on 06 August 23 at 06:03
Online for old games should be free
HolyHalfDead805,452

Posted on 06 August 23 at 06:44, Edited on 06 August 23 at 06:56 by HolyHalfDead
KGI KlikoNL said:
Funny how you talk each time over the reason why they got handled differently.
Twice you claimed Xbox One games used to be yours to keep, and twice I politely told you that was never the case, and provided a source. They got handled differently because now Microsoft had a way to make you keep paying for Gold, rather than a hit and run when there was a Xbox 360 game you wanted.

Just point to the first AAA game on my list HolyHalfDead's blog post - Games with Gold (Final update August 2023)
I guess that would be Rayman Legends. It wasn’t until July 2015 that we got AC4 (which was being bundled for free with new consoles). Not exactly a flurry of AAA games was it.
He's not a man. He's the holy Half-Dead who has seen the Underverse and returned with powers you can't imagine.
KGI KlikoNL210,648

Posted on 06 August 23 at 07:51, Edited on 06 August 23 at 08:53 by KGI KlikoNL
PirateRyanG said:
Playstation also has more subscribers, which means it has more cash to spend on games for the service. That's why it was able to attract new releases to the service (Rocket League and Fall Guys, for instance) as the player base for Sony was enough to seed the popularity of both the games.

Microsoft has nowhere near the same number of subscribers for Gold as Sony has for Playstation Plus.

But still, you've not provided evidence of Microsoft claiming that the restricted licence on XB1 was to bring more quality games to the service. You have said several times they said it, so proof, please?
More subscribers, nice fancy words you use for Gamers. And I highly doubt it, I know quite some Playstation owners and none of them have Plus. Most still refuse it as they could play online for free back on Playstation 3. On the other hand, everyone I know with Xbox, has at least Gold.

Statista.com say: As of March 2023, the service had over 47.4 million subscribers, a decrease from its peak of 48 million subscriptions in December 2021 (Plus). Xbox Game Pass reported 25 million subscribers in January 2022.

Key.Direct says: As of 2021, there are an estimated 57 million Xbox Live Gold subscribers and 2 million Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscribers.
And guess Gold has more Subs then Game Pass. Can't find anything about Gold on Statista.

There are also games, that came first on Xbox, High on Life and Minecraft.

And further, outside the small snippets from site Holy gave (reference to Top Games, next to Indie games and to be more like playstation plus has), it is pretty unfindable, for example, go look here on GwG or Games with Gold, barly any news articles that come up. And with Google, it is all oversnowed now with End of it articles.
I'm not Green, I'm not Blue. I'm Cyan.
hammerpunch886,807

Posted on 06 August 23 at 08:26
Some fine GWG games that I remember fondly; Assassins Creed: Black Flag, Sleeping Dogs, Gears of War 4, Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition, Tales from the Borderlands, Broken Sword 5, Battlefield 1, Gears 5.
3 can keep a secret. If 2 are dead
KGI KlikoNL210,648

Posted on 06 August 23 at 08:45
HolyHalfDead said:
KGI KlikoNL said:
Funny how you talk each time over the reason why they got handled differently.
Twice you claimed Xbox One games used to be yours to keep, and twice I politely told you that was never the case, and provided a source. They got handled differently because now Microsoft had a way to make you keep paying for Gold, rather than a hit and run when there was a Xbox 360 game you wanted.

Just point to the first AAA game on my list HolyHalfDead's blog post - Games with Gold (Final update August 2023)
I guess that would be Rayman Legends. It wasn’t until July 2015 that we got AC4 (which was being bundled for free with new consoles). Not exactly a flurry of AAA games was it.
The only gaming news site I used back in the day, was TrueAchievements. In my memory, it is something in news article back then on this site, that does me beleave, that the Xbox One games where also different handled, cause they tried to get newer AAA games on it. As some companies did not like putting new games in it if could keep them even without Gold. Bit same why some companies not put their new AAA games on Game Pass, as they feel can earn way more by only selling them.
I'm not Green, I'm not Blue. I'm Cyan.
PirateRyanG225,956

Posted on 06 August 23 at 09:31
KGI KlikoNL said:
PirateRyanG said:
Playstation also has more subscribers, which means it has more cash to spend on games for the service. That's why it was able to attract new releases to the service (Rocket League and Fall Guys, for instance) as the player base for Sony was enough to seed the popularity of both the games.

Microsoft has nowhere near the same number of subscribers for Gold as Sony has for Playstation Plus.

But still, you've not provided evidence of Microsoft claiming that the restricted licence on XB1 was to bring more quality games to the service. You have said several times they said it, so proof, please?
More subscribers, nice fancy words you use for Gamers. And I highly doubt it, I know quite some Playstation owners and none of them have Plus. Most still refuse it as they could play online for free back on Playstation 3. On the other hand, everyone I know with Xbox, has at least Gold.

Statista.com say: As of March 2023, the service had over 47.4 million subscribers, a decrease from its peak of 48 million subscriptions in December 2021 (Plus). Xbox Game Pass reported 25 million subscribers in January 2022.

Key.Direct says: As of 2021, there are an estimated 57 million Xbox Live Gold subscribers and 2 million Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscribers.
And guess Gold has more Subs then Game Pass. Can't find anything about Gold on Statista.

There are also games, that came first on Xbox, High on Life and Minecraft.

And further, outside the small snippets from site Holy gave (reference to Top Games, next to Indie games and to be more like playstation plus has), it is pretty unfindable, for example, go look here on GwG or Games with Gold, barly any news articles that come up. And with Google, it is all oversnowed now with End of it articles.
"I don't know anybody that has PS Plus, so clearly it has the same number of subscribers as Xbox Live"

That's just a silly statement and not worth commenting on.

Xbox didn't say that they were moving to the new model for better AAA games. I was an active game journalist at that time, and I can assure you it didn't happen. I just had a cursory look through the press release database for game journalists and cannot see anything there.

If you read it, chances are somebody made it up. You won't find the information, because it didn't happen.

Minecraft came to Xbox first as developing for the PS3, particularly for a small studio like Mojang, wasn't really in their budget.

HIgh on Life was a paid limited exclusive for Game Pass.
Rad Wizrrd523,453

Posted on 06 August 23 at 09:52
Wait, I thought they said we'd get 4 games for the final month? Maybe I miss understood something I read.

Inertial D looks cool. The other one...isn't my cup of tea, but I'll take it. You will be missed Games with Gold but I'm so glad we had you while we did. Glad we have Gamepass.
At this point I'm convinced Xbox wants their console names to be confusing.
Meridian 4CK140,353

Posted on 06 August 23 at 09:54
its usually trash.
HolyHalfDead805,452

Posted on 06 August 23 at 10:11, Edited on 06 August 23 at 10:12 by HolyHalfDead
KGI KlikoNL said:
HolyHalfDead said:
KGI KlikoNL said:
Funny how you talk each time over the reason why they got handled differently.
Twice you claimed Xbox One games used to be yours to keep, and twice I politely told you that was never the case, and provided a source. They got handled differently because now Microsoft had a way to make you keep paying for Gold, rather than a hit and run when there was a Xbox 360 game you wanted.

Just point to the first AAA game on my list HolyHalfDead's blog post - Games with Gold (Final update August 2023)
I guess that would be Rayman Legends. It wasn’t until July 2015 that we got AC4 (which was being bundled for free with new consoles). Not exactly a flurry of AAA games was it.
The only gaming news site I used back in the day, was TrueAchievements. In my memory, it is something in news article back then on this site, that does me beleave, that the Xbox One games where also different handled, cause they tried to get newer AAA games on it. As some companies did not like putting new games in it if could keep them even without Gold. Bit same why some companies not put their new AAA games on Game Pass, as they feel can earn way more by only selling them.
Xbox One Games with Gold Titles Available Now
Keep in mind that, unlike Games with Gold for Xbox 360, you need to retain your Xbox Gold membership for these titles to function.
He's not a man. He's the holy Half-Dead who has seen the Underverse and returned with powers you can't imagine.
iiAssassinXxii816,648

Posted on 06 August 23 at 10:26
Dylan Hase said:
SilentJay76 said:
Dylan Hase said:
People saying ~~“yes”~~ "no" must be trolls or have ~~zero~~ unrealistic expectations for something that’s ~~part~~ a bonus of a service they pay for
Fixed it for ya.
How funny. The games aren’t free. You pay for them through your subscription. They used to be quality because Microsoft felt the need to compete with PlayStation, now they don’t feel like they need to. to think a company is doing something for “free” out of generosity shows a total lack, of even the simplest knowledge, of how business works. I see more people defending decreasing quality which I will cause Microsoft to offer worse quality services. Gamepass overall quality has already decreased over the last 2 years and will continue because people don’t value their money.
You aren’t paying for the games at all. You’re paying for the subscription and the games are a free perk on top of that which was added much later than the actual benefits of Gold that are paid for.
Going for gamerscore. iiAssassinXxii
buttmudBrooks1,584,245

Posted on 06 August 23 at 11:41
NO1KEV said:
buttmudBrooks said:
I'll never understand the mentality of asking for less out of something you pay for. "Yes, I'd like to pay for a membership but please, don't include all the extra frills."
If you think the extra frills suck, you can *gasp* ignore them. Asking for them to not be included at all makes zero sense to me, unless their inclusion was negatively impacting better aspects of the service and I haven't seen anything that indicates this was happening.
The problem is that all gamers think ms should of given them huge triple a games every month which was never gona happen. For me if i have a few of them its a bonus if not i leave em and move on. Bitchin about it wont make ms change the games. They are too busy ramming game pass in everyone's face
This is how I felt about it. I downloaded every one on the off chance I’ll play it and like it, knowing most probably wouldn’t be great. I already can’t keep up with all the Game Pass games, but having a few every month that I can “keep” indefinitely means I could theoretically get to it when I finish the backlog.
Always number 2.
Dylan Hase814,572

Posted on 06 August 23 at 12:40
iiAssassinXxii said:
Dylan Hase said:
SilentJay76 said:
Dylan Hase said:
People saying ~~“yes”~~ "no" must be trolls or have ~~zero~~ unrealistic expectations for something that’s ~~part~~ a bonus of a service they pay for
Fixed it for ya.
How funny. The games aren’t free. You pay for them through your subscription. They used to be quality because Microsoft felt the need to compete with PlayStation, now they don’t feel like they need to. to think a company is doing something for “free” out of generosity shows a total lack, of even the simplest knowledge, of how business works. I see more people defending decreasing quality which I will cause Microsoft to offer worse quality services. Gamepass overall quality has already decreased over the last 2 years and will continue because people don’t value their money.
You aren’t paying for the games at all. You’re paying for the subscription and the games are a free perk on top of that which was added much later than the actual benefits of Gold that are paid for.
It’s called a “free perk,” but in reality it is not free. It’s an incentive that is added by utilizing revenue from the subscriptions. This is a basic concept of business. If a service offers free perks people don’t use and have a cost to the company offering them, then the “free perk” is using money people pay to the service to provide the “free perk,” thus it is not free.
JTD ST735,058

Posted on 06 August 23 at 12:42
HolyHalfDead said:
KGI KlikoNL said:
HolyHalfDead said:
KGI KlikoNL said:
Funny how you talk each time over the reason why they got handled differently.
Twice you claimed Xbox One games used to be yours to keep, and twice I politely told you that was never the case, and provided a source. They got handled differently because now Microsoft had a way to make you keep paying for Gold, rather than a hit and run when there was a Xbox 360 game you wanted.

Just point to the first AAA game on my list HolyHalfDead's blog post - Games with Gold (Final update August 2023)
I guess that would be Rayman Legends. It wasn’t until July 2015 that we got AC4 (which was being bundled for free with new consoles). Not exactly a flurry of AAA games was it.
The only gaming news site I used back in the day, was TrueAchievements. In my memory, it is something in news article back then on this site, that does me beleave, that the Xbox One games where also different handled, cause they tried to get newer AAA games on it. As some companies did not like putting new games in it if could keep them even without Gold. Bit same why some companies not put their new AAA games on Game Pass, as they feel can earn way more by only selling them.
Xbox One Games with Gold Titles Available Now
Keep in mind that, unlike Games with Gold for Xbox 360, you need to retain your Xbox Gold membership for these titles to function.
He won’t ever admit he is mistaken or wrong. Never has, never will.
AdvisingMonkey2328,798

Posted on 06 August 23 at 12:46
Way back in the beginning after they added Assassins Creed II, I remember arriving home from school on a Friday afternoon to find that my queue of Xbox 360 downloads had at last finished. I sat back in my chair not a clue of knowing what I'd started, Very quickly becoming entranced by the story and charm of Ezio Auditore. I spent the whole weekend playing through the story from start to finish. I'll never forget my one and only brief interruption of vacuuming the lounge room at record breaking pace in order to get back to the Animus again.

It was because of GWG that I not only discovered my favorite game franchise within Assassins Creed but I also found my desire to 100% games. It was the beginning of an decade long journey of trying games and finding many great titles that I would never have played on my own. My efforts to become a Completionist eventually leading me to TrueAchievements for guides and gaming sessions for those pesky online achievements that I never complete on my own. At times when I thought I didn't have anything to play GWG was there adding titles to my backlog and even some that Community Challenges and Bean Dives finally pushed me into playing. Only recently in preparation for the latest crossover in Sea of Thieves, I went into my backlog to find GwG had already years prior delivered 2 more hidden gems from the Monkey Island series I was yet to fall in love with.

Alas we all knew that GWG was in steady decline even before it found it's successor in GP and that cancelation was always looming closer. Now that it's here I do feel a little saddened. I'll always have fond memories of GwG as It brought me years of untold joy and I wouldn't have discovered as many games as I have without it.

Requiescat in Pace Games with Gold you will be missed.
Anxsighety2,270,817

Posted on 06 August 23 at 13:04
Blue Fire was on my wishlist so I’m happy with that. But honestly, ending the service instead of embarrassing themselves on a monthly basis was probably the right choice.
KGI KlikoNL210,648

Posted on 06 August 23 at 13:17
JTD ST said:
HolyHalfDead said:
KGI KlikoNL said:
HolyHalfDead said:
KGI KlikoNL said:
Funny how you talk each time over the reason why they got handled differently.
Twice you claimed Xbox One games used to be yours to keep, and twice I politely told you that was never the case, and provided a source. They got handled differently because now Microsoft had a way to make you keep paying for Gold, rather than a hit and run when there was a Xbox 360 game you wanted.

Just point to the first AAA game on my list HolyHalfDead's blog post - Games with Gold (Final update August 2023)
I guess that would be Rayman Legends. It wasn’t until July 2015 that we got AC4 (which was being bundled for free with new consoles). Not exactly a flurry of AAA games was it.
The only gaming news site I used back in the day, was TrueAchievements. In my memory, it is something in news article back then on this site, that does me beleave, that the Xbox One games where also different handled, cause they tried to get newer AAA games on it. As some companies did not like putting new games in it if could keep them even without Gold. Bit same why some companies not put their new AAA games on Game Pass, as they feel can earn way more by only selling them.
Xbox One Games with Gold Titles Available Now
Keep in mind that, unlike Games with Gold for Xbox 360, you need to retain your Xbox Gold membership for these titles to function.
He won’t ever admit he is mistaken or wrong. Never has, never will.
I have, for example with description of Weekly Spotlight Events of Microsoft Flight Simulator, but guess not interested as you have made up your mind anyway and will not fit in your ally.
I'm not Green, I'm not Blue. I'm Cyan.
KGI KlikoNL210,648

Posted on 06 August 23 at 13:31
PirateRyanG said:
KGI KlikoNL said:
PirateRyanG said:
Playstation also has more subscribers, which means it has more cash to spend on games for the service. That's why it was able to attract new releases to the service (Rocket League and Fall Guys, for instance) as the player base for Sony was enough to seed the popularity of both the games.

Microsoft has nowhere near the same number of subscribers for Gold as Sony has for Playstation Plus.

But still, you've not provided evidence of Microsoft claiming that the restricted licence on XB1 was to bring more quality games to the service. You have said several times they said it, so proof, please?
More subscribers, nice fancy words you use for Gamers. And I highly doubt it, I know quite some Playstation owners and none of them have Plus. Most still refuse it as they could play online for free back on Playstation 3. On the other hand, everyone I know with Xbox, has at least Gold.

Statista.com say: As of March 2023, the service had over 47.4 million subscribers, a decrease from its peak of 48 million subscriptions in December 2021 (Plus). Xbox Game Pass reported 25 million subscribers in January 2022.

Key.Direct says: As of 2021, there are an estimated 57 million Xbox Live Gold subscribers and 2 million Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscribers.
And guess Gold has more Subs then Game Pass. Can't find anything about Gold on Statista.

There are also games, that came first on Xbox, High on Life and Minecraft.

And further, outside the small snippets from site Holy gave (reference to Top Games, next to Indie games and to be more like playstation plus has), it is pretty unfindable, for example, go look here on GwG or Games with Gold, barly any news articles that come up. And with Google, it is all oversnowed now with End of it articles.
"I don't know anybody that has PS Plus, so clearly it has the same number of subscribers as Xbox Live"

That's just a silly statement and not worth commenting on.

Xbox didn't say that they were moving to the new model for better AAA games. I was an active game journalist at that time, and I can assure you it didn't happen. I just had a cursory look through the press release database for game journalists and cannot see anything there.

If you read it, chances are somebody made it up. You won't find the information, because it didn't happen.

Minecraft came to Xbox first as developing for the PS3, particularly for a small studio like Mojang, wasn't really in their budget.

HIgh on Life was a paid limited exclusive for Game Pass.
Arn't the developers of Fall Guys and Rocket League also, when the games got released? But reported numbers I find, both subs not differ so much. Or have you proof of other numbers?
I'm not Green, I'm not Blue. I'm Cyan.
taximike508,982

Posted on 06 August 23 at 13:40
Would have been nice to go out with a bang with something a bit better

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