Game Discussion: The Sims 4 Forum

Heads Up if you're thinking about getting this

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iVaLe
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iVaLe
Posted on 14 November 17 at 14:44
It's not good.

I'm an avid sims player, and an avid xbox gamer so the two together seemed like a no brainer to get the achievements. The list looks like a lot of fun, and it's hard to get me to complain about anything. Unfortunately, the controls are bad, like, real bad. I researched this like crazy before buying and everyone said the controls were kinda weird, but they all seemed sort of positive about it. I'm telling you right now, they.. are.. horrendous.

The mouse cursor has a bizarre acceleration that makes precisely clicking anything a chore, and the snap to buttons thing they have implemented (press a button and the cursor snaps to the buttons you can move to) is finicky, random and disorienting. Then just because i'm being hyper critical here, the UI itself is poor, just at a very basic design level. For example the tooltips on your sims personality obscures the other buttons, not to mention it's extremely cluttered. It's a minor gripe but its basic design 101. You can expect that sort of attention to detail everywhere else.

I notice nobodies really talking about this. I'm not telling you not to buy the game, if you're excited to get the chieves by all means. Just, know.. this is what your in for.
New Paralyzer
872,794
New Paralyzer
Posted on 14 November 17 at 15:23
Wow... Really?

Thanks, good to know. This is upsetting.
xPut Name Herex
Posted on 14 November 17 at 17:29
It's upsetting, but Maxis has really yet to figure out a pure Sims game on consoles. It might just be too tough of a translation from keyboard and mouse to controller.

Hopefully Xbox gets a K+M update and Sims would support that.
shortbubble
620,773
shortbubble
Posted on 14 November 17 at 20:22
That and I Jaycee cant have our needs up at all times I hate having to click it to see what's getting low
Jitters Senpai
Posted on 15 November 17 at 05:43
Sadly I agree. I was incredibly excited to play it on consoles, but the controls are terrible.
HateMe4141
963,708
HateMe4141
Posted on 16 November 17 at 02:15
I do not know if it is possible to sell a stack of items. It makes selling produce from the garden a major hassle.
Malkoris
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Malkoris
Posted on 16 November 17 at 22:55
Just to add another name into the hat, I completely agree. I'm a big fan of console and a big fan of Sims, but the controls here are painful. After many hours of playing, you'll get *more* used to them, but some screens have hidden key commands and very non-intuitive controls (left trigger to view collections, for example), and the "click the left stick to see all the controls!" feature doesn't actually show all of the controls.

That, added to various save bugs and system crashes, along with the other issues iVaLe points out, make this game clunky and frustrating at times.
Unbeltedfatty
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Unbeltedfatty
Posted on 16 November 17 at 23:44
Also if u save you have to turn off your controller 🎮 and turn it back on to be able to play agin
Unbeltedfatty
DutRank
142,492
DutRank
Posted on 17 November 17 at 16:31
How did they screw up the controls this bad when Sims 3 was just fine?
Malkoris
460,766
Malkoris
Posted on 18 November 17 at 01:07
Outsider Fenix said:
How did they screw up the controls this bad when Sims 3 was just fine?
My guess is that The Sims 3, being a cut down, reduced build of the game had to have a lot of specialized work done and the controls got more TLC because there was a whole new control scheme to build around. Sims 4 looks and feels like a direct port with a control overlay and an Xbox-friendly main menu overlay.

The good part of that is that this game really does feel and act like the PC version of the game, unlike the "Sims 3 Lite" that we got previously. The bad part is that it feels like far less attention was paid to the controls. That's just my guess, of course, but the difference from PC to console for the engine is notably less this time around.

Personally, I've put a lot of hours into it already and I'm enjoying it, but I've had to dashboard a number of times due to save bugs, lost time to screwups, and still have no idea how to do some of the things that would make the game far more playable (like sell a stack - anyone know if that's even possible here?) If you're easily frustrated, I'd give this one a pass until they address some of these issues.
Azrael008uk
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Azrael008uk
Posted on 18 November 17 at 23:45
The controls aren't bad they're just not a carbon copy of SIMs 3.

I expect things might be difficult if you're coming from playing SIMS 3 and jump into this expecting it to be the same.

I loved SIMS 3 but haven't played it in a while so I wasn't expecting the SIMs 4 controls to work in a pre-conceived way.

The controls take a bit of getting used to but for all the complex things you have to do they work pretty good. They're just not what you're used to and for the size of the game... it's not such a big ask to get your head around them.

I was really worried about this but I'm pleased to see it's not the "bare bone: buy the base game and we'll sell you the actual content one piece at a time-fest" I thought it was going to be.

There are 3 neighborhood locations you can start from and there's a lot of content here.

At first you might think you're restricted in your movements, where you can go and what you can do but you're not. Play and you'll find your way to the park, the clubs, the gyms, work and the rest.

I like the attention to detail. My sim has a reflection in mirrors and there's a lot of detail contained in the actions and tasks they perform.

If you're going to be up in arms about anything it should be the Day 1 DLC that costs more than the game you just bought.

EA are masters of getting people to pay for their games twice and with SIMS 4 they'll do this through the add-ons on offer.

Now to give them a bit of credit the game is big, detailed, entertaining with lots to do besides trying to get the female character you created to kiss the first girl she meets in game.

Friends of mine who have it on PC say that "City Living" and "Vampires" are both excellent expansions which both include new areas.

EA have been careful to package them outrageously expensive by themselves so you're best option is to buy them along with a "dumb clothes" bundle.

Really great game but the experience is soured from the beginning with the overpriced DLC.

The controls aren't bad. They're just different and complex. With time you'll become as familiar with these are you were with any of the previous incarnations.
TobyLinn
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TobyLinn
Posted on 25 December 17 at 20:17
This game is horrible. :(

It took me 10 minutes to figure out how to get to the sims customization options in Create A Sim.
Once I got there it took me 10 minutes to get the hairstyle I wanted as it kept on picking the wrong one. They came wearing a hat and it has been another 10 minutes and I have not managed to remove the hat yet.
When I move the hand to click on various parts of the body it goes too fast or too slow.
I am about to give up and just uninstall the game.
So disappointing as I really loved the Sims 3 and was looking forward to this one too.
U2NUMB
626,876
U2NUMB
Posted on 29 December 17 at 18:11
HateMe4141 said:
I do not know if it is possible to sell a stack of items. It makes selling produce from the garden a major hassle.
In case you have not figured it out...

Sell inventory stacks: while having the stack selected in the inventory:
Xbox: press X + Y at the same time.
PlayStation: press square + triangle at the same time.
*If you are unable to press Ok in the dialogue that opens, press circle or B to go back and try again
ClareBearJ
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ClareBearJ
Posted on 11 January 18 at 14:54
Glad I'm not the only one finding the controls awful! Need to knock out the rest of the achivements and then I'll be getting rid of it!
cliche1
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cliche1
Posted on 19 January 18 at 18:40
It's so unresponsive it's crazy, going to work will be my example send a sim to work and 9 times outta 10 they'll be late. They seem to stand around for 2 in game hours before doing anything and this happens with everything. If you love sims like I do, avoid this game it's destroyed my love for this game. The developers should be ashamed of themselves.
tynderi
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tynderi
Posted on 28 April 18 at 21:59
I'd like to add some features that were weird for me as the Sims 4 was my first Sims ever.

Tutorial is bugged. Somehow I managed to make my character all ready with only half of the tutorial and when I was pressing done it popped up for me the rest of the tutorial saying I should decide how do I want my Sim to look like. And first time I played no tutorial, after a save the tutorial popped out. There's no proper UI to give hints or whatsoever, I had a fire within first two minutes of my game and no advice on it (I was clicking oven so only gave error). And notification board has to be manually cleared (wtf seriously).

In addition to weird UI and controls sometimes the cursor gets locked in to the right side, skills career etc. So whenever I move my mouse it goes through those and pops them open. So when I tried to save it would just open Needs/Career/Skills info and I had to tap B+A, finally save the game and then quit game and open it again to continue without the bug.

Sometimes also Sims get locked in to a assignment and you can't do anything about it but waste hours for them to do something. One of my Sims carried his child around the place, twice fell asleep on her without doing any of the assignments I tried to do. If you haven't played Sims before this can get quite annoying when you have 2 assignments to do and it takes half a day to finish them or not get them done at all.
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