Genre Voting

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Genre Discussion

Related game: Fallout 3

  • Posted on 23 May 16 at 12:37
    Please use this thread to discuss this games classification under the new multi-genre system.

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  • matdanmatdan794,703
    Posted on 23 May 16 at 14:13
    Action RPG First Person/Third Person shooter.
  • MakeMeACoffeeMakeMeACoffee1,013,178
    Posted on 23 May 16 at 14:27
    not action
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  • LV 1 Blue SlimeLV 1 Blue Slime1,116,032
    Posted on 23 May 16 at 17:06
    Action/RPG/FPS/TPS.

    Put action because it is ARPG now. I've tried to retain legacy genres when possible.
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  • MakeMeACoffeeMakeMeACoffee1,013,178
    Posted on 23 May 16 at 18:17
    the whole reason we are doing this is because hte old system wasnt up ot the task.
    if we just mirror the old system we may as well have not bothered.

    with VATS there is really no real reflex testing in fallout 3 - its not action as per the TA genre definitions.
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  • LV 1 Blue SlimeLV 1 Blue Slime1,116,032
    Posted on 23 May 16 at 18:45
    The problem was that games could not get more than one genre. Now they can. I dunno about you, but in most cases I'm choosing the same genres the game has now. The exceptions are cases like Borderlands where I can now put them in RPG AND FPS, instead of it having to be one or the other. That's why the system was changed.

    Not sure what you mean with VATS, it's your typical reflex/aim check that most shooters are if you aren't using it. Outside of really strong enemies it was a waste of time to use VATS, especially with the slow motion camera spam. My gatling laser and I got by just fine.
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  • Daelus1Daelus1648,613
    Posted on 24 May 16 at 10:18
    I would assume the vast majority of players use VATS extensively and do not view this game as a shooter; hell many people play the entire game without picking up a gun! Calling this a shooter is not rational if you can play the whole thing without a gun.
  • matdanmatdan794,703
    Posted on 24 May 16 at 10:23, Edited on 24 May 16 at 10:23 by matdan
    Daelus1 said:I would assume the vast majority of players use VATS extensively and do not view this game as a shooter; hell many people play the entire game without picking up a gun! Calling this a shooter is not rational if you can play the whole thing without a gun.So Max Payne 3 isn't a shooter if I use bullet-time all the time (heh)? A bullet-time mechanic is something used heavily in shooters and not many other genres if any. Allows accuracy of weapons, pull off tricky weapon maneuvers and take-out enemies before they shoot back.

    As has already been stated personal opinion is not what decides the final choices, this is based on what mechanics are in the game not whether you used them or not. For example the multi-genre discussion of Bioshock being a stealth game or not.
  • Posted on 24 May 16 at 14:21
    Role Playing First Person Shooter
  • LV 1 Blue SlimeLV 1 Blue Slime1,116,032
    Posted on 24 May 16 at 21:14
    Daelus1 said:Calling this a shooter is not rational if you can play the whole thing without a gun.I'm not getting into that yet again. We'll just see how the votes turn out.
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  • Daelus1Daelus1648,613
    Posted on 25 May 16 at 10:14, Edited on 25 May 16 at 10:20 by Daelus1
    matdan said:Daelus1 said:I would assume the vast majority of players use VATS extensively and do not view this game as a shooter; hell many people play the entire game without picking up a gun! Calling this a shooter is not rational if you can play the whole thing without a gun.So Max Payne 3 isn't a shooter if I use bullet-time all the time (heh)? A bullet-time mechanic is something used heavily in shooters and not many other genres if any. Allows accuracy of weapons, pull off tricky weapon maneuvers and take-out enemies before they shoot back.

    As has already been stated personal opinion is not what decides the final choices, this is based on what mechanics are in the game not whether you used them or not. For example the multi-genre discussion of Bioshock being a stealth game or not.
    So you are focusing on time abilities? Reread the post and try your hardest to follow along with the complex thread...can you play the entirety of Max Payne without picking up a gun....if you can = not a "shooter".....that isn't an "opinion", that is one of them pesky fact thingies....get it now or did I distract you with something shiny.....good god some people are thick....and if you are one of those voting FO as a FPS/ TPS, shake your head and, well honestly, you will likely forget what you were thinking anyways, however.....in theory, you could play the Witcher through using only the crossbow....should we start classifying that as a TPS....sigh.
  • matdanmatdan794,703
    Posted on 25 May 16 at 10:42
    Sorry I am not getting into this BS discussion again, will wait for results. Already been discussed, also being rude just shows you are a jerk. I don't discuss with jerks either or people that cannot form a proper sentence.
  • Daelus1Daelus1648,613
    Posted on 26 May 16 at 10:33
    matdan said:Sorry I am not getting into this BS discussion again, will wait for results. Already been discussed, also being rude just shows you are a jerk. I don't discuss with jerks either or people that cannot form a proper sentence.Sorry if I come across as a jerk, but people being obtuse is a pet peeve. If you can't understand the difference between facts and opinions you shouldn't be opining on the subject.

    Again, the fact is that many people play FO3, NV & 4 WITHOUT EVER PICKING UP A GUN. For someone to opine these games are "shooters" because they personally play with a gun is idiotically shortsighted and their votes should be discounted.....the problem with consensus is that the majority will likely not be particularly bright.
  • matdanmatdan794,703
    Posted on 26 May 16 at 10:42
    That is an opinion learn the difference before engaging discussion/beating a dead horse.
  • MakeMeACoffeeMakeMeACoffee1,013,178
    Posted on 26 May 16 at 11:19
    Daelus1 said:Again, the fact is that many people play FO3, NV & 4 WITHOUT EVER PICKING UP CONSTANTLY HOLDING A GUN. For someone to opine these games are NOT "shooters" because they personally DONT play with a gun is idiotically shortsighted and their votes should be discounted.....the problem with consensus is that the majority one person will likely not be particularly bright.
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  • LV 1 Blue SlimeLV 1 Blue Slime1,116,032
    Posted on 26 May 16 at 21:25
    I played FFX almost exclusively using Rikku's slots ability, so I guess I better get on TT and vote for it to be in Casino. It's a tired argument and people are being obtuse because we're tired of hearing it. Just because you CAN play through a game doing X doesn't mean the game was built around it. I can play through Halo using melee, but that doesn't mean it's suddenly not a shooter.
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  • misfit119misfit1191,005,777
    Posted on 27 May 16 at 22:24
    I have a legitimate question to sidestep all of the stupidity - why are people putting third person shooter / first person shooter? That seems to be really weird. It's a camera angle decision and it doesn't really impact how you play the game either way. Between VATS, the ability to purely use melee weapons or unarmed attacks and the camera angle choices, wouldn't it make more sense to simply label it an Action-RPG? It's an open world game with both action and RPG elements to it so one could even get away with Action-RPG-Sandbox.

    If we're going to put in genres for camera angles then we should indeed put in tags for Casino for any game with gambling mini-games or Rikku's ability and vehicle tags for any shooters with requisite vehicle sections. Just seems like a very odd decision to clutter up the tags.
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  • Daelus1Daelus1648,613
    Posted on 28 May 16 at 01:38, Edited on 28 May 16 at 01:42 by Daelus1
    LV 1 Blue Slime said:I played FFX almost exclusively using Rikku's slots ability, so I guess I better get on TT and vote for it to be in Casino. It's a tired argument and people are being obtuse because we're tired of hearing it. Just because you CAN play through a game doing X doesn't mean the game was built around it. I can play through Halo using melee, but that doesn't mean it's suddenly not a shooter.It's not easy to tell exactly what your point is; only a blithering idiot would suggest Halo is anything but a shooter...any game that devotes 99% of its resources to mp pvp with guns.....well, you should pick another example. FO was "built around" an RPG exploration sandbox.....period....how people choose to explore that, level and customize their character and engage in combat is completely up to them (which you may actually be saying but it isn't clear)....if I had to guess, I would say most play with a gun (it's easier) and most of those use VATS extensively. Me, I am on my 3rd playthrough and am rocking a str/ end build and haven't touched a gun in almost 200 hours.....they botched this "shooter".

    I would agree with the above poster, there are things about FO that everyone will agree with...factual things......RPG and open world.....and then there are the challenged who can't see past how they play.
  • LV 1 Blue SlimeLV 1 Blue Slime1,116,032
    Posted on 28 May 16 at 02:26, Edited on 28 May 16 at 02:29 by LV 1 Blue Slime
    MakeMeACoffee explained it in a different way.

    MakeMeACoffee said:Daelus1 said:Again, the fact is that many people play FO3, NV & 4 WITHOUT EVER PICKING UP CONSTANTLY HOLDING A GUN. For someone to opine these games are NOT "shooters" because they personally DONT play with a gun is idiotically shortsighted and their votes should be discounted.....the problem with consensus is that the majority one person will likely not be particularly bright.
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  • matdanmatdan794,703
    Posted on 28 May 16 at 02:27
    misfit119 said:I have a legitimate question to sidestep all of the stupidity - why are people putting third person shooter / first person shooter? That seems to be really weird. It's a camera angle decision and it doesn't really impact how you play the game either way. Between VATS, the ability to purely use melee weapons or unarmed attacks and the camera angle choices, wouldn't it make more sense to simply label it an Action-RPG? It's an open world game with both action and RPG elements to it so one could even get away with Action-RPG-Sandbox.

    If we're going to put in genres for camera angles then we should indeed put in tags for Casino for any game with gambling mini-games or Rikku's ability and vehicle tags for any shooters with requisite vehicle sections. Just seems like a very odd decision to clutter up the tags.
    I do agree that shooters should be classed more to what they are then one dumb angle but we seem to be in a minority. RPGs and racing have fairly well defined genres on the other-hand that describe the gameplay although arcade racing can be very vague.
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