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Did you not import?
No. I wouldn't have bought the game if I was going to do that lol.
Fuck. Wasn't supposed to pop for another 6 hours.
Tedious fucking notes.
really you couldn't look it up on TA lol.. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/fifa-15-ut/9wzdncrdj...
Not that I know of but I wouldnt be surprised
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That's why I was asking, because TA didn't say anything but I couldn't find it in the store.
yes I can find it in the store idk if that's bc I already own it though lol.
Yup checked with an account that doesn't own it and its no longer available/delisted so your SOL dude..
u arent done playing bad games yet?
Im guessing WP version is gone as well.
Yup gone as well.
I was able to download it with the link you sent.
How is this game?
Surprisingly pretty fun
women are wicked when your unwanted
streets are eneven
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only two people knows the doors compare too system,its sad
Such a lonely day...
On a plus note, I may get have time Tuesday to get some gaming done. Gotta step up my game if I want 400k.
Oooo have to check your last post now.
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not all of my gamerscore is done by me some games were done by my brother
It is what it is. I needed to make that post, I was tired of lying. This post was just simply for the purpose of over dramatizing everything just a little bit more.
What I was trying to say is, people shouldn't be ashamed of admitting to sharing their account. I talk to people all the time who are afraid to admit it.
I understand not wanting to share your account, and I respect that too.
4 people u can do without.I'm assuming these "gaming gods" have also never played multiplayer as that could be construed as earning an achievement via other people lol
Listen if they removed you for that then they're not the type of gamer i'd want to be 'friends' with anyway.I sincerely mean it when I say it doesn't bother me in the....
...slightest.Having the odd achievement popped by a friend or family member is part of being a modern day gamer.
Problem is, the post didn't lend itself to the assumption that it was an "odd achievement" or two. It read as if it was a lot. Context is everything....
You talking 1,000 GS that isn't yours? 10,000? 50,000? There is a clear line that people will be upset about. And yes, there are degrees of "help"
Unclear* (wish there was an ability to edit)
I don't see why people should be upset period though.
Everyone's competitive... so they feel slighted that "your score" isn't 100% yours. IMO, I would only be bothered if you had monetized this hobby. Someone like Stallion..
...would piss me off if he was sponsored and earning a living by gaming as being the "best individual" if it wasn't an individual effort, you know?
For the rest of us casuals, who cares?
I really do not worry about it and have known about stuff like this for a very long time. However, unless they changed the Xbox terms and conditions it is strictly...
against the rules to have another individual play on your account. I cannot remember what it specified, but it was a big deal. I thought True Achievements had something..
too be could be mistaken. Spanky has an excellent point on the amount of score that one has actually achieved though. Because a thousand here or a thousand there may...
not be enough to stir anything up. Just when you are talking about someone that has something like half a million gamer score and admits that over half of was from...
other people, do you not think people are going to get a little stirred up?
Because everyone on Xbox (know it does happen) could easily trade accounts to stack games. A great way to get some score is to find games that stack and complete them..
all. You could find a friend that has completed a game three times and a game you have completed three times and get the score in less than half the time.
I would imagine that most of you here have stacked at least a couple games. You know how easy the second game is versus the first time around. You can literally finish...
in less than half of the time, maybe closer to a quarter. This could allow two people to accumulate a massive amount of score for one another.
The only time I had help was with the family guy game completing a level in co-op mode and my mum gave me a hand
Respectfully, I do not think that is what it is about. We are not referring to playing a game with a friend or a friend boosting you to a high level in a game. We are...
Better I should say I was and not "we are". However, I was referring to someone playing on your account with the intentions to gain achievements to increase ones score.
Hope none of these achievement ment elitist boost or read up on a secret achievement before they unlock them otherwise they are not earned legitimately.
Like for example one of your friends recovering your account to complete a game for you in your place or to play a game that you would have otherwise never played.
lol @ Harbringernight I think there is a line between those two.
@PiCkLE - I think people get upset about this kind of stuff because it devalues the idea of achievements. Similar to GamerScore modding, you're unlocking recognition...
Like for example I hate ruining secret achievements for myself, especially when they ruin things for me personally.
Plus others on your account has never been against TOS. If it changed I would love to have a link to the exact spot in the TOS. This is not WoW.
For instance, The Witcher 3: Complete Edition has many secret achievements in it to make sure the story is not spoiled. However, they only unlock about half of the time.
...for doing something whilst applying zero effort.
Damn phone "achievement elitist never boosted or"
I was talking about it all actually. Sharing my account with friends that come over to visit, letting family use my account to play my games and yes giving my account
Therefore, I have to reveal all of them to make certain I get them when I am suppose to, so if I do not I can reload a previous save.
to a trusted friend who then unlocked a couple achievements.
It really sucks, but I do not want to have to put three hundred or more hours into this game again for a 10G achievement that did not unlock when it was suppose to.
Why are we talking about Witcher 3....? someone went off on a tangent i guess.On topic it's all a bit petty if u ask me,no actual cheating/modding was done...
..let's just move on. #FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS
If you could read, Harbringernight mentioned secret achievements and jokingly (I think) compared revealing them before unlocking them to this.
Plus it is relevant, as us Americans compare things before making an argument. It is called analysis and comparison... they work by the way.
Besides what are you saying to move on from? No one is arguing here. This is just a discussion and people putting in their two cents.
Plus Nooblets just basically summed it up. Because as I said earlier it is best to compare something before making your point. Because it is your account registered to...
you. Therefore, when you have someone else play on your account to gain achievements, what is the difference between that and modding them?
As you yourself put no effort towards them either way.
...wait...what....are you still here? Sorry I'd drifted off,I'm sure you made a good point or 2 though.I'm off now though,good night.
You are the one who said to move on buddy. Why do you not just take your own advice if this is boring you? Why come back and keep posting? Unless you have nothing...
better to do.
Achievements on games hold so little real meaning that anyone getting upset abouy how they are achieved should rethink their priorities
With all do respect Hexa and I am not having a go at you, your first statement said it is strictly against MS TOS. You then immediately followed it up with you couldn't
remember specifically. I do not think you had your facts in order there. I would need to see where MS forbids me from having anyone play on my tag but me.
Agrees with shadowman BTW
Because I have heard it from several different people. I honestly thought it was. I glanced it over and there is a lot about sharing, but nothing specifically saying...
anything about account sharing. However, again that is not what I was talking about. I am not referring to a family member or friend playing with you on your console.
I am not even referring to someone borrowing your account or making any claims against any of it. Just that many people agree that there is a line between someone...
playing on your Xbox or borrowing your account and someone taking your account with clear intentions to unlock achievements for you.
I mean my opinion of the matter is that your account is solely your account. Consider this, I am Hexa Fox, it does not say Hexa Fox and InigoMontoya80. Therefore, you...
should not be borrowing my account for the clear intentions to get achievements for me and vise versa. Like Nooblets said people believe that it devalues achievements.
I was just pointing it out because I would hate to see misinformation get spread. People use that claim in attempts to bully or impugn people on this site. I'm not saying
you are doing that. try to keep the misinformation to a minimal.
I really do not know what my personal opinion is on the matter. However, it is easy to see why some people can get upset.
It is the fact that when you look at your account that is registered to you. There is not much difference between someone completing and game for you or modding it.
That's a matter of subjective opinion and who you ask in regards to it being a blurred line. MS TOS does specifically say modding a account is a no no. However the only
issue in regards to TOS is not to give your password to anyone. And at the end of the day the only reason they mention that is for liability claims.
What we can go off of is black and white cold hard facts. Everyones opinion may differ on the issue but the facts are there is a difference according to MS TOS. again I
just want misinformation to be kept minimal.
Technically, you'd need to share your password to share your account with someone who is not under the same roof as you... in that regard, it would violate the TOS.
Obviously, the intent isn't what MSFT was going for, but we're talking black and white contract of what's included v. what isn't.
Personally, I don't think they give a shit. As you said, it's just an out for them if Pickles account is stolen. They can drop the old "we told you so"
Try wearing your moderator hat when dealing with friends
And there is that damn hat on my head again! Just an FYI account sharing is against MS ToS. So kinda part of our ToS too.
and yes the second you give your acct password to someone you have violated MS TOS. Every bank has it in their TOS of service as well but I can guarantee anyone who is
married has shared their pin number with their significant other.
Now in no way am I condoning sharing you acct info from MS.
And FYI account sharing is not against MS ToS. Sharing your password is ;)
You may not use anyone else’s account at any time, without the permission of the account holder. Exact quote from theit ToS
No offence, but comparing this to a bank or place of business is not relevant here. You are talking about something that is directly used to exchange currency to buy...
or sale something. Therefore, the issue you run into is the authentication measures that are put into place to protect the individual owner.
For instance, if your girl friend/spouse, sibling, or children want to use your debit card/credit card their name needs to be on the card.
No offense taken. I do have my cc linked to my xbox profile so yes it is similar. It is an account with a ToS. Liabilty being the key for those clauses. In fact if you
Like Spanky said the reason these policies are implemented are to cover their @$$ so to say. Because when something does happen, they can pull out the piece of paper...
and show you the fine print.
read the Tos there is absolutely nothing that forbids it. It states you should protect your password. I.E. never give it out.
I agree 100% with that. I do not agree with anyone saying someone on someone else's acct is against the ToS, when clearly it is not.
I don't care about the issue, but ninja's right - there's wording about allowing 3rd parties access your account/tag here: http://enforcement.xbox.com/home/codeofconduct
Yes I write those policies all the time. Spanky is correct. In an effort to maintain confidentiality you must keep your password a secret at all times.
I did not go over it thoroughly, but as I already stated I personally did not see anything that forbids users from sharing accounts. However, the password policy does...
interfere with it. We run into stuff like this all the time. It does not matter what a policy was implemented to do, there are only two sides.
One side of it is the policy being followed or broken. However, you are correct in that there is nothing that strictly forbids users from sharing accounts.
@Nightwolf Not certain where you are going with that, I already read it. No offence, but I know about writing security/privacy policies.
So you are saying it is against the terms of service right?
That's the code of conduct not the ToS. The ToS override the code of conduct in any dispute.
Wasn't talking to you, Hexa. That page is neither, though, it's the XBL code of conduct. It says:
Now that I wasted my time and life reading it, Spanky is 100% correct actually. There is nothing that goes against the terms of service for account sharing specifically.
Don't Lend, transfer, sell, or otherwise provide third parties access to your accounts or Gamertags
However, you cannot share your password to achieve this or you have violated the terms of service. It cannot really be revised either as it has to remain that way to...
and I do agree with 100% Hexa. You should never give your password out. That is just asking for trouble.
maintain their own integrity. If that makes sense. They cannot allow us to "share passwords" as if something does happen they need it to fall back on us not them.
They pretty clearly state that a violation of the CoC can get you banned and lead to termination of your Gold service, including for "trading accounts or gamertags"
Yes...... much like a bank has to do to protect themselves when your crazy ex girlfriend gains unauthorized possession of your credit card.
If they told you it was okay to share your pin/password they would need to be responsible. However, they cover their ass by telling you not to disclose to anyone ever.
Also, the ToS includes a clause about you agreeing to not violate any code of conduct and includes a link to the CoC... so yes, it IS in the T'S.
No offense again lol, but there is nothing about account sharing at all. Which I for one thought that there was.
Inigo, the page you linked to clearly calls out the CoC as part of the terms, so everything I stated is applicable.
So they actually cannot touch you for account sharing. Unless they confirm that you shared your password to do so. They would need to update the terms of service to...
forbid account sharing. Which they have not.
Really, Hexa? "Don't provide third parties access to your accounts or gamertags" isn't clear enough for you?
Okay. There's 2 sides to this discussion that I don't see ending anytime soon. I'm going to ask that you guys please wrap it up before an argument breaks out.
I appreciate the support and honesty. After all of this, I probably just won't share my account. Like I said, it doesn't bother me if I do or don't.
I wasn't aware that it could be against ToS, so I just won't do it anymore. It wasn't a lot of gamerscore but that doesn't seem to matter. Let's all just drop this and
No worries, Pickle. FWIW, I don't care if you did & certainly wouldn't report you. I was just refuting claims that sharing isn't a ToS violation when it technically is.
Do not insinuate that there is going to be an argument. No one is personally attacking anyone yet. As long as people screw their heads on nothing is wrong.
If you guys keep going at it (argument or not), then it's only a matter of time before someone jumps in and stirs things up.
Anyway, I am reading a Information Systems Security book at the same time as this so I got confused AGAIN. I should have concentrated on my book and let this rest a...
But saying "No one is personally attacking anyone yet" would mean an argument has already happened. I'm just saying, please just drop it before one does start.
long time ago. However, yeah sharing passwords or accounts with someone else is strictly prohibit like I said the first time before I changed my mind... twice. lol
Things get misread on the internet and people can take things the wrong way. I mean this post is over 120 comments already lol
I participated in this because sharing accounts has come up several times in the past.
Just saying, there are no longer two sides, because some people here did their research correctly lol.
Sharing passwords is a bad idea as I have seen what can happen before with friends of mine. I wouldn't have given him my password if I didn't know him personally.
When something in one line in a policy contradicts the other you go back to the beginning of the line as that is what will apply to your case. That is how policy and...
There was a time where we were going to make a new account and share it together and see how much gamerscore we could get.
law works. In this case third parties can be technically anyone other than Microsoft and the account holder, which means it is forbidden to share your account period.
I would like it to go on record that even though I screwed up in the middle there I did have the right answer first.
Yeah sort of supports that I would rather be babbling on the Internet with a bunch of people than reading an Information Technology law text book right?
Well I have about eighty emails to delete so, I guess I will be seeing you guys?
People research the topic, providing links to credible sources, and avoiding insults? Pretty sad that that's a rarity for Internet (and many other) discussions.
Exactly ^ I just wanted it to end so I didn't have to delete 150 comments when I wake up. Also I think everything was handled fine. No arguments.
Agreed. Educated conversations over the Internet are obviously not commonplace....
For all intents and purposes the Code of Conduct == Terms of Service/Use
Well if the terms of service clearly has a paragraph stating it is OK it overrides what code of conduct does say. Now the verbage in code of conduct is clearly different
and was mad clearly different for a reason.
I must say this has been quite a great internet debate and props to hexa and nightwolf. Lots of great points being made
and the verbage I speak of is "third party" which in a legal term would be read as a commercial entity
How did this blow up to 140+ posts, do people really care about a pointless debate? Never mind forgot I was on the internet for a second.
It is called discussion, and yeah it happens all the time. Whether it is communicated through the Internet, phone, or real life they can serve to be educational.
This is especially helpful since Microsoft has recently been on a mission to sensor the entire Internet. They have started by cracking down hard on Xbox Live.
As of right now there is no way to dispute charges against you either. Microsoft is overwhelmed by the amount of suspensions and bans they are placing on accounts.
Therefore, they have zero customer service for any kind of Enforcement Actions. This is relevant because it is good to know what we can and cannot do.
@InigoMontoya80 It does not matter unless you strictly specify. This is why organizations normally have lawyers or professionals in the field write these policies.
A "third party" in this situation can be read as any party other than Microsoft (provider) and account holder (customer). This means literally anyone.
I know all of that quite well, a friend of mine lost his account with thousands of dollars sunk it it for "requesting too many refunds" he got 19 refunds on windows 8
games that were delisted, and at the time there was no way to get them back. He even managed to get connected to Phil Spencer's off but to no avail. That said some debate
on TA isn't going to help you take back the power my brotha.
Believe me I know that all too well also. I also learned many things the hard way. Anyway, I am not trying to take power back lol. I am only trying to figure out what...
acceptable and what is not in this new world order of Nazisoft.
How are they "Nazisoft"? I can tell you from experience that MS looks out for customers far more than most tech companies. Preventing cheating and the like isn't bad.
Dear god thats alot of comment and thats what I get for posting while on break yesterday.
I feel sorry for the ones who commented at the top.
Love non lawyers "discussing" legal jargon.
I share it with friends and family, and don't make them do anything. Only stuff they want to do and they ask first. I know people don't like this, but it is whatever.
Nothing wrong with that bud,some of my GS wasn't me.It ur account to do as u please,what anyone thinks is irrelevant:)
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Well I see a lot of people doing this but everyone is afraid to tell people. I don't understand. I myself was lying about it for a while too, but don't see the need to
anymore. People ask me how is this game, and I would lie. For the record, I haven't been on my account yet this year.
I wud harbor a guess that the guys at the top of TA do exactly this,but probably wudnt admit it.doesnt make anyone any less of a gamer
Hell,any Gamerscore I have on fallout or elder scrolls wasn't me..my son does them :)
Cool story bro next on 6 o clock news nobody gives a flying fuck... Lol
I wouldnt worry about it all all except i think MS policy might be against this if it's on many consobles, if its Ll same console doesnt matter
I can appreciate your honesty, but I have to disagree with the suggested notion that unlocking achievements for others is or should be an acceptable practice.
in what way is it unacceptable?
It isn't against MS policy... This is totally something this community has collectively decided was something to be looked down upon.
Its no one's business but yours, everyone else can mind their own damn business.
The high and mighty Community lol
Oh ok, I thought it was against policy. I really dnt care about anyone's gamerscore but my own so carry on lol
Sharing your console and GT with your family is not against policy. It's when you share your account with other randoms for gain it's frowned upon.
who is to say what someone can do with their OWN account with their OWN details?..And what gain?a bit more gamerscore?...there is no financial gain etc,wot the hell is
No one is telling you how to manage your account. We're merely expressing our own perspectives on the matter just as you are yours...
...Out of simple curiosity, what's your take on using a profile tool to modify your GamerScore? Should that be an acceptable practice as well?
Microsoft can say what you can do with your account
Sorry was expressing my opinion like yourself lol.modifying Gamerscore I wudnt agree with.if an achievement is earned legitimately I see no problem
Whether it be family or friend who does it
I think this debate revolves around each individual's interpretation of 'legitimate' which is something of a subjective matter. There's no use in arguing over opinions.
gamerscore is gamerscore. As someone said, so long as it's done without cheats, I have no problem with it. It's just that the person who's letting others on their --
won't have the chance to play thru the game unlocking achievements for the game the other person did, which I guess is a negative for the person I guess --
other than that, it's legitimate gamerscore in my book, like inviting a friend over to let them do Through the Fire and Flames on Expert. Lol.
We really need more room in these freakin comments, god, it's so confusing for my thoughts having to cut every sentence like that
I was just simply posting this to show that it is whatever and I'm not afraid to admit it. If I like a game and want to play it, I'll play it even if the achievements are
already unlocked. I appreciate everyone's thoughts and opinions. It's okay to agree or disagree. What I'm saying is, I don't care if it's frowned upon. I don't want
to keep it a secret like the many people I know, that do.
Its all good, personally I don't do it myself, the only thing that pisses me off is people that are in the top 10 that get recognized for being the best in the world...
when in reality they have loads of people doing the work on multiple consoles.
I live with 2 friends, they also play on my account idc they dont go for the achievemtns in games most of the time they Just play for fun
Outside of my friend doing some music game stuff with me and helping me get some of those Im the only one who plays on my tag.
Though I dont care either way if other people share their tag. My friend shares his account with his girlfriend since she only games here and there and they live together
Not like any of this shit actually means anything
Seriously you guys are so jealous over gamerscore that you refuse to believe one person can get over 1 million gs? That's just stupid.
I know many people who play over 10 hours each day by themselves. They are good at games, they don't get frustrated, they are skilled. They don't need anyone else to play
for them. I have nothing against letting your family play on your account. Just pissed me off when people blame the Top 10 scorers are not doing it by themselves
I did Through The Fire and Flames for my friend back in the day. Then again my other friend did some songs with drums for me to get few achievements
Either way nobody can really prove at end of day who does their account solo or with help.Unless they choose to say so,it remains their business :)
No names, but at least 3 people in the top 10 definitely trade accounts.
It gets dicey if you are entered in any of the on site competitions.
Good luck with whatever it is. We will miss you but will hold down the fort while you are away.
Thanks. If anything, I'll still be around on XB1.
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