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Hello everybody,

As requested in the comments I will try to go further in details on what to expect for the grind of this achievement, And how you could progress in order to achieve it (without spending money and a lot of your time), but please note that this will be a suggestion based on my game style on this kind of clicker games, You can go trough as you prefer. (using offline methods, etc),

-- First: The Heroes --

All* the heroes below are named according to the English language of the game, however they are listed in the same order:

(These are the original prices for hiring without any boost in-game, for level up, you can calculate the last price x 1.07 approx. each time)

Once you had enough Gold to purchase one hero the next one will be "revealed" in your list.

For your information of how to read the scientific annotation:
A few examples:

1.000e5= 100,000 (100K)
2.500e6= 2,500,000 (2.5M)


1.- Cid, the Helpful Adventurer, 5
2.- Treebeast, 50
3.- Ivan, the Drunken Brawler, 250
4.- Brittany, Beach Princess, 1000
5.- The Wandering Fisherman, 4000
6.- Betty Clicker, 20000
7.- The Masked Samurai, 1.000e5
8.- Leon, 4.000e5
9.- The Great Forest Seer, 2.500e6
10.- Alexa, Assassin, 1.500e7
11.- Natalia, Ice Apprentice, 1.000e8
12.- Mercedes, Duchess of Blades, 8.000e8
13.- Bobby, Bounty Hunter, 6.500e9
14.- Broyle Lindeoven, Fire Mage, 5.000e10
15.- Sir George II, King's Guard, 4.500e11
16.- King Midas, 4.000e12
17.- Referi Jerator, Ice Wizard, 3.600e13
18.- Abaddon, 3.200e14
19.- Ma Zhu, 2.700e15
20.- Amenhotep, 2.400e16
21.- Beastlord, 3.000e17
22.- Athena, Goddess of War, 9.000e18
23.- Aphrodite, Goddess of Love, 3.500e20
24.- Shinatobe, Wind Deity, 1.400e22
25.- Grant, the General, 4.199e24
26.- Frostleaf, 2.100e27
27.- Dread Knight, 1.000e40
28.- Atlas, 1.000e55
29.- Terra, 1.000e70
30.- Phthalo, 1.000e85
31.- Orntchya Gladeye, Didensy Banana, 1.000e100
32.- Lilin, 1.000e115
33.- Cadmia, 1.000e130
34.- Alabaster, 1.000e145
35.- Astraea, 1.000e160

--*The following heroes are not required for the achievement with the last hotfix 23/06/17--
36.- Chiron, 1.000e175
37.- Moloch, 1.000e190
38.- Bomber Max, 1.000e205
39.- Gog, 1.000e220
40.- Wepwawet, 1.000e235
41.- Tsuchi, 1.000e500
42.- Skogur, 1.000e1000
43.- Moeru, 1.000e2000
44.- Zilar, 1.000e4000
45.- Madzi, 1.000e8000


-- Second: Warnings about ascending --
You might want to consider to wait of making your ascension if you are close to get any of these achievements:

Clicker HeroesFarmer boyThe Farmer boy achievement in Clicker Heroes worth 212 pointsLevel up heroes 25,000 times

Clicker HeroesEpic heroThe Epic hero achievement in Clicker Heroes worth 258 pointsDefeat all Centennial Bosses


They will ultimately reset your progress when you do a hard ascending (the fast ascending is when you use your 50 rubies to avoid reseting your current progress).

If you find yourself still far away from that point you can chose to do a hard ascension if you don't have enough rubies (that you could have if you harvest in the game for a few hours).


-- Third: The way to clear the first 150 levels --

This part will be used as a small walktrough for the people doing the first run, in general it can be used to harvest hero souls, but we will discuss that later.

I'll refer to the heroes in the list order above to save space:

Hero 1. Cid, the Helpful Adventurer, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 2. Treebeast, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 3. Ivan, the Drunken Brawler, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 4. Brittany, Beach Princess, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 5. The Wandering Fisherman, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 1. Cid, the Helpful Adventurer, Level 25, Second upgrade
Hero 6. Betty Clicker, Level 10, No Upgrade
Hero 7. The Masked Samurai, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 2. Treebeast, Level 100, Last Upgrade
Hero 3. Ivan, the Drunken Brawler, Level 100, 4th and 5th Upgrade
Hero 8. Leon, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 9. The Great Forest Seer, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 5. The Wandering Fisherman, Level 100, Last 2 Upgrades
Hero 10. Alexa, Assassin, Level 10, No Upgrade
Hero 11, Natalia, Ice Apprentice, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 6. Betty Clicker, Level 100, All Upgrades
Hero 12. Mercedes, Duchess of Blades, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 8. Leon, Level 75, Last Upgrade
Hero 13. Bobby, Bounty Hunter, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 14. Broyle Lindeoven, Fire Mage, Level 10, No Upgrade
Hero 15. Sir George II, King's Guard, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 10. Alexa, Assassin, Level 100, 1st, 4th and 5th Upgrade
Hero 16. King Midas, Level 10, No Upgrade
Hero 17. Referi Jerator, Ice Wizard, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 12. Mercedes, Duchess of Blades, Level 100, Last Upgrade
Hero 13. Bobby, Bounty Hunter, Level 100, Last Upgrade
Hero 18. Abaddon, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 14. Broyle Lindeoven, Fire Mage, Level 100, 1st and 5th Upgrade
Hero 19. Ma Zhu, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 15. Sir George II, King's Guard, Level 100, Last Upgrade
Hero 20. Amenhotep, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 16. King Midas, Level 125, All Upgrades
Hero 21. Beastlord, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 17. Referi Jerator, Ice Wizard, Level 125, Last Upgrade
Hero 22. Athena, Goddess of War, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 18. Abaddon, Level 75, Last Upgrade
Hero 23. Aphrodite, Goddess of Love, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 24. Shinatobe, Wind Deity, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 20. Amenhotep, Level 50, 2nd and 3rd Upgrade
Hero 24. Shinatobe, Wind Deity, Level 25, Second Upgrade
Hero 21. Beastlord, Level 100, Last 2 Upgrades
Hero 25. Grant, the General, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 25. Grant, the General, Level 25, Second Upgrade
Hero 23. Aphrodite, Goddess of Love, Level 100, 4th Upgrade
Hero 26. Frostleaf, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 26. Frostleaf, Level 25, Second Upgrade
Hero 24. Shinatobe, Wind Deity, Level 100, Last Upgrade
Hero 25. Grant, the General, Level 50, Third Upgrade
Hero 26. Frostleaf, Level 50, Third Upgrade
Hero 26. Frostleaf, Level 75, Last Upgrade

If you spend more than a week to reach this point, your are not progressing your heroes as fast as you can (note, that you need to wait hours to make money anyways, so make sure you are using the hours you sleep in your advantage, [remember to close the game! and not just in standby]).

In this point the Dread Knight will still be out of our way for at least 2 o 3 months of collecting gold, so it's time for ascension setup.

First, level up all your heroes to lvl 200., from that use the x25 lvl up, from that onwards your heroes get a 4x DPS each time they hit a 25-multiple of levels, so expend your money until they are too expensive to keep going (your goal is to reach lvl. 150-170 and around 1600 accumulated level increases before your first hard ascension).

If you read the second part from this guide you might be aware if is your first run, that you are to far away of achieving them, but if you are more advanced in progress, you might want to wait a bit longer before resetting, but that's your call.


-- Fourth: The Perks of ascending --

If you have meet this part in your first run with at least 1600 levels, you should be around +8... +15 after ascending. Take note that this is really important, if you don't have a good number of heroes souls to ascend, is a waste of time. In my opinion.

By this time you might have collected at least 50 rubies, if you haven't used them.
Please note there are some options in the in-game store:

1- 3 random mutated heroes, 30 rubies
2- +# Heroes Souls + 1 Fast ascension, 50 rubies
3- 3 relics, 40 rubies
4- +$$$$ Gold + skill refresh, 20 rubies
5- Double DPS forever, 50 rubies

4 is garbage and you should not expend money or rubies doing that, at least for now.

1 and 3 are mostly not required cause you will eventually getting as you level up in game.

5 and 2 is our target, as you progress in game the number of heroes souls you can claim will be growing, I can't tell exactly what makes it grow, but it does.

If you have the rubies, purchase it and ascend.

New options will be revealed, the bonus +10% DPS per soul will be applied to your total amount, and the ancestors will show up in your menu (probably relics as well).

The ancestor #1 we need is Dogcog, if is not in the options available, refresh (using some souls). the reason of that, is we we want it to be cheap, 1 hero soul for lvl. 1, is going to be cheaper to level him up, instead if we purchase him with a base price higher.

After that we need to rinse and repeat the progress to collect souls, collect rubies, purchase fast ascension, expend the souls on leveling Dogcog.

Use your hard ascension when you are not able to do fast ascension in a short time frame or if you are not able to go forward on the levels. repeating this process at least 4-5 times with hard ascensions should bring you to level 200-250 and some weeks closer to Dread Knight.

Further steps or suggestions on other ancestors will be added as they are provided.
Texans2K2please don't post guides for achievement you haven't earned. This is is wrong and there are not even that many heroes in the Xbox One version of the game.
Posted by Texans2K2 on 12 Mar 17 at 22:55
reforc3I think it only reach till Astraea, but I'm working on Shinatobe currently.
Posted by reforc3 on 12 Mar 17 at 23:01
Texans2K2The following are not in the game.

36.- Chiron, 1.000e175
37.- Moloch, 1.000e190
38.- Bomber Max, 1.000e205
39.- Gog, 1.000e220
40.- Wepwawet, 1.000e235
41.- Tsuchi, 1.000e500
42.- Skogur, 1.000e1000
43.- Moeru, 1.000e2000
44.- Zilar, 1.000e4000
45.- Madzi, 1.000e8000
Posted by Texans2K2 on 12 Mar 17 at 23:07
reforc3Fixed
Posted by reforc3 on 12 Mar 17 at 23:14
Texans2K2thanks and I would atleast put in your guide the name of the ancient that reduces hero cost by 50 percent because it will help alot going for all Heroes.
Posted by Texans2K2 on 12 Mar 17 at 23:22
I AM CULLYThe Ancient is called Dogcog, Ancient of Thrift. His maximum level is 25 and he gives -2% discount to hero hiring and level-up cost per level.
Posted by I AM CULLY on 13 Mar 17 at 00:25
reforc3Yeah, sorry, I used the name of a different language.
Posted by reforc3 on 13 Mar 17 at 00:27
should i ascend? i'm at 250 something and just unlocked dread knight
Posted on 13 Mar 17 at 09:34
reforc3That depends on how many hero souls you can collect
Posted by reforc3 on 13 Mar 17 at 13:06
Martel18I unlocked this achievement at level 2300 for anyone wondering when you can approximately obtain it.
Posted by Martel18 on 14 Mar 17 at 05:43
I AM CULLYI unlocked Orntchya Gladeye, Didensy at level 1200ish, so you have an idea of how far away you are.
Posted by I AM CULLY on 14 Mar 17 at 10:25
stlclfgh1@I AM CULLY , have you spent any money on gems to make your progress quicker or just grinding it out? I imagine it only gets faster as the game goes on and you start getting the huge multipliers but dang it's slow right now.
Posted by stlclfgh1 on 14 Mar 17 at 21:19
Dr Tinus NL@stlcfgh 1, use the offline boosting method. It helps a ton on progressing.
If you're not doing the offline boosting method i think this game will take multiple years, lolz.
Posted by Dr Tinus NL on 18 Mar 17 at 14:52
E vee dubWould you please include in this guide when you will be able to afford to purchase all 35 Heroes? Meaning at which Ascension will you be able to get it.
And also could you be clear whether or not you can get all 35 before the first Ascension if it's worth it. The one guy that posted said he was level 2300. I'm not sure what that means as I have not yet ascended for the first time.
Posted by E vee dub on 24 Mar 17 at 09:07
TONI III04I am stuck at getting dread knight since its so extremely expensive. Can anyone give me a tip how to get it faster or to get on in the game faster in general? I have 56 souls at the moment and dont know if I should spend them since the loss of 10% bonus isnt that little.
Posted by TONI III04 on 24 Mar 17 at 14:21
reforc3Hi,

You have 56 souls pending or already available to use?
If you can use them, invest on Dogcog, it will help in getting cheaper heroes (each level is a - 2% in the cost).

Later today i'll write down a starter guide.


You will need to ascend in order to get closer to the target faster than not doing it. Is a longer grind basically if you dont ascend.

Level 2300 refers to the floor 2300 of 3600 (you start at lvl 1)
Posted by reforc3 on 24 Mar 17 at 14:36
TONI III04They are already usable. I got dogcog after some refreshing. Is it really such a good option since you also lose 10% of extra damage with every sold soul?
Posted by TONI III04 on 25 Mar 17 at 02:56
reforc3Is not like you lost them, each hero souls gives you a +10% from your base DPS.
You can for example, invest on Siyalatas.

It gives you an increase on DPS while IDLE.
For example if you use 6 hero souls, you will lose -60% of permanent DPS, but you will gain +75% of DPS while idle.

So, chose your cards, and select the gameplay that fits better for you.
Posted by reforc3 on 25 Mar 17 at 03:10
Sangriaz@TONI III04: Don't worry about losing some souls. You will need to spend more than million souls if you want to have any chance to complete this game. Basically, it's absolutely necessary to have ancients at very very high levels. For example, getting Juggernaut from level 350 to level 360 alone takes like 70,000 souls. My Juggernaut was at level 400 and that was still not really enough and I was barely killing enemies from level 3500 to 3600.
Posted by Sangriaz on 25 Mar 17 at 13:11
TONI III04So you also recommend to buy the ascending with several souls every time to have 50 bucks?
Posted by TONI III04 on 26 Mar 17 at 02:59
I AM CULLYwith 50 Gems.. I would definitely only use gems on Quick Ascensions. The extra souls are what you want. Double DPS is probably decent for your first purchase, but I wouldn't buy the gilds or cooldown stuff on xbox. Purchased Gilds will be more useful after transcending comes to xbox.
Posted by I AM CULLY on 29 Mar 17 at 05:26
Nekro NekoDouble DPS from the rubies is not garbage, it has the same value as Dogcog but you are expending rubies to get it. If you must get it, get it on your first run. Also, never get Dogcog first, you actually want to be getting Siyalatas/Libertas for idle builds and if you're a lunatic (you like to mash the cn_X button) you should get Fragsworth or Juggernaught.
Posted by Nekro Neko on 30 Mar 17 at 18:02
reforc3Well it certainly depends on the gane style of each person, but 10 hero souls are equal to the double DPS, so yeah, it helps but not a mjst have option
Posted by reforc3 on 30 Mar 17 at 18:31
reforc3I'll change that portion of the guide then
Posted by reforc3 on 31 Mar 17 at 00:04
Nekro NekoIt's double DPS that is applied after all other multipliers. 10 HS is additive and therefore less valuable.
Posted by Nekro Neko on 31 Mar 17 at 01:01
CovertBazingaThanks for the list! I'm using it a lot but finding that I need to see their names so I thought I'd drop this here..just kind of melding your lists into 1 in case anyone else needs to see the names as well.

Hero 1. Cid, the Helpful Adventurer, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 2. Treebeast, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 3. Ivan, the Drunken Brawler, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 4. Brittany, Beach Princess, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 5. The Wandering Fisherman, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 1. Cid, the Helpful Adventurer, Level 25, Second upgrade
Hero 6. Betty Clicker, Level 10, No Upgrade
Hero 7. The Masked Samurai, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 2. Treebeast, Level 100, Last Upgrade
Hero 3. Ivan, the Drunken Brawler, Level 100, 4th and 5th Upgrade
Hero 8. Leon, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 9. The Great Forest Seer, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 5. The Wandering Fisherman, Level 100, Last 2 Upgrades
Hero 10. Alexa, Assassin, Level 10, No Upgrade
Hero 11, Natalia, Ice Apprentice, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 6. Betty Clicker, Level 100, All Upgrades
Hero 12. Mercedes, Duchess of Blades, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 8. Leon, Level 75, Last Upgrade
Hero 13. Bobby, Bounty Hunter, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 14. Broyle Lindeoven, Fire Mage, Level 10, No Upgrade
Hero 15. Sir George II, King's Guard, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 10. Alexa, Assassin, Level 100, 1st, 4th and 5th Upgrade
Hero 16. King Midas, Level 10, No Upgrade
Hero 17. Referi Jerator, Ice Wizard, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 12. Mercedes, Duchess of Blades, Level 100, Last Upgrade
Hero 13. Bobby, Bounty Hunter, Level 100, Last Upgrade
Hero 18. Abaddon, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 14. Broyle Lindeoven, Fire Mage, Level 100, 1st and 5th Upgrade
Hero 19. Ma Zhu, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 15. Sir George II, King's Guard, Level 100, Last Upgrade
Hero 20. Amenhotep, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 16. King Midas, Level 125, All Upgrades
Hero 21. Beastlord, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 17. Referi Jerator, Ice Wizard, Level 125, Last Upgrade
Hero 22. Athena, Goddess of War, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 18. Abaddon, Level 75, Last Upgrade
Hero 23. Aphrodite, Goddess of Love, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 24. Shinatobe, Wind Deity, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 20. Amenhotep, Level 50, 2nd and 3rd Upgrade
Hero 24. Shinatobe, Wind Deity, Level 25, Second Upgrade
Hero 21. Beastlord, Level 100, Last 2 Upgrades
Hero 25. Grant, the General, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 25. Grant, the General, Level 25, Second Upgrade
Hero 23. Aphrodite, Goddess of Love, Level 100, 4th Upgrade
Hero 26. Frostleaf, Level 10, First Upgrade
Hero 26. Frostleaf, Level 25, Second Upgrade
Hero 24. Shinatobe, Wind Deity, Level 100, Last Upgrade
Hero 25. Grant, the General, Level 50, Third Upgrade
Hero 26. Frostleaf, Level 50, Third Upgrade
Hero 26. Frostleaf, Level 75, Last Upgrade
Posted by CovertBazinga on 03 Apr 17 at 21:18
ALollzThere is honestly so much misinformation within this guide that it's likely doing more harm than help.

You should not be trying to go for those three achievements (Dora, 25K heroes centennial bosses) before your first ascension. That's an absolute waste of time... You'll get them after you've ascended about 60 times. The whole point of this game is to ascend many times, each time getting more and more efficient at collecting souls. If you get to a point where it takes you another 3 of farming hours to climb 10 levels then you need to hit that ascend button.

If you don't ascend rapidly it will take you a month to get to level 1000 and then the next time it will take you like a week (because you only gain like 4K hero souls). If you keep ascending rapidly you'll get to the point where you can breeze through level 1000 in ~25 minutes. And it only takes that long because you're limited by the length of the enemy death animation...

Dogcog as your first ancient is an absolute mistake. You want siyalatas, libertas, solomon or atman. Once you can reach level 200 Argaiv is also necessary. If your first few ancients aren't the majority of those you need to respec because it's simply going to take you longer to progress if you don't.

This game is all about exponential growth. Trust me, don't pick a suboptimal ancient because it has a 4 soul re-roll cost to try for a new set. Soon you'll be making thousands of souls and that 4 you threw away wont even matter.

You'll have far more souls after a few runs if you re-roll to get the High Tier ancient which allows you to push higher levels faster than it is to not throw away souls, pick a suboptimal ancient and then be stuck with an even higher cost to buy another ancient.
Posted by ALollz on 04 Apr 17 at 21:03
lfcjohnALollz
Agree with you, the initial pick of Ancient is a key factor which make you progress much faster to late game. During first few ascension, your HS mainly come from level up heroes (2000 for 1 HS), and after few days spending on HS based on active build, I'm now grabbing 3-4K HS per 60 mins run with around HZE 600.

Argaiv or Dogcog should be my next ancient which cost 1700HS (need to re-roll)
Posted by lfcjohn on 06 Apr 17 at 02:17
lfcjohnI unlocked 10000 chests today and ascension won't reset the progress. Better update the solution to avoid misleading information
Posted by lfcjohn on 07 Apr 17 at 08:29
reforc3They did a patch time ago, before the patch it was being reseted.
I'll update that.
Posted by reforc3 on 08 Apr 17 at 01:08
lfcjohnThanks for the update :)
Posted by lfcjohn on 08 Apr 17 at 06:55
lfcjohnMy current status with active build

HZE: ~1380, bank 50K HS with Samurai over 3000 level. I have all but 3 ancients left (2 idle ancient and 1 metal detector ancient, with remaining ancient which has max level maxed already)

My latest hero as below.
31.- Orntchya Gladeye, Didensy Banana, 1.000e100
Posted by lfcjohn on 11 Apr 17 at 06:50
GameTagwastakenGood guide, but this is not true:
1 hero soul for lvl. 1, is going to be cheaper to level him up, instead if we purchase him with a base price higher.
Incremental level cost is not based on initial cost. The second level for Dogcog will always be 4, the third will always be 8, regardless of whether the first level cost you 1 soul (first ancient) or 50,000 (last ancient).
Posted by GameTagwastaken on 24 Apr 17 at 14:46
reforc3Umh, well in my case i got it at 1 soul for level 1, for level 16 i need 17 to level up. So yeah maybe the syntaxis is not correct
Posted by reforc3 on 24 Apr 17 at 15:15
troyoyI give you thumbs up. This game is complex and therefore has to be hard to write a guide or even a solution. There are many different ways to play it. If you learn anything about the game reading this solution and comments then it is a win in my book. If it is the best solution or only one out there then the people bitching should write a better one.
Posted by troyoy on 24 Apr 17 at 18:12
lfcjohnI have.over 110 ascension and is up to 32 now
Posted by lfcjohn on 25 Apr 17 at 16:34
GYS GHOSTI'm at level 904 and I miss only these 6 heroes
30.- Phthalo, 1.000e85
31.- Orntchya Gladeye, Didensy Banana, 1.000e100
32.- Lilin, 1.000e115
33.- Cadmia, 1.000e130
34.- Alabaster, 1.000e145
35.- Astraea, 1.000e160


, I did only 3 ascents, do I have some chance to hire all heroes?
Posted by GYS GHOST on 25 Apr 17 at 18:47
lfcjohnJust for reference how long / far you need to unlock this achievement.

I have 136 ascension now and using hybrid build with HZE 2205 (left my controller whole night for active build) and the maximum gold gained is around 1.5e154.

I put all my gilded heroes to Phthalo with instakill around lv 1250 and in average i gain 2e5 - 3e5 per ascension (depend if reach HZE or not)

I move 40 zone further prior to my previous ascension (HZE before is 2159 with max gold gained 7.8e151) and based on this information hopefully i should get the achievement around 10 more ascension (to have 5e159 for Astraea with maximum of hero cost reduction ancient).

Will update once when I get the achievement to have the HZE for other reference.

Below reference for my ancient allocation


Ancient
Argaiv: 1600 (+3200% gilding)
Bhaal : 600 (+9000% critical click)
Chronos: 70 (+350s boss fight)
Frags: 600 (+1200036% dam)
Juggernaut: 203 (+2.03% DPS)
Libertas: 1270 (+19590% gold idle)
Mammon: 1280 (+6400% gold drop)
Mimzee: 1290 (+64500% gold chest)
Morg: 1691523 (+18606753% DPS)
Siyalatas: 1600 (+24540% dps idle)
Solomon: 520 (+720% hero souls)

Max level
Atman: 25 (+25% primal boss)
Berserker: 30 (powersurge+60s)
Bubos: 25 (-50% boss life)
Chawedo: 30 (clickstorm+60s)
Dogcog: 25 (-50% hero cost)
Dora: 50 (+1000% chest chance)
Energon: 30 (metal detector+60s)
Fortuna: 40 (+10% 10x gold)
Hecatoncheir: 30 (sup clicks +60s)
Kleptos: 30 (golden clicks +60s)
Kuma: 5 (-5 monster to next zone)
Sniperino: 30 (lucky strikes +60s)
Vaagur: 15 (-75% cooldowns)
Revolc: 15 (+15% double rubies)
Posted by lfcjohn on 10 May 17 at 07:17
GYS GHOSTThanks a lot @lfcjohn! But whenever i ascend I get 10% dps more? You before you ascend that level you reach?
Posted by GYS GHOST on 10 May 17 at 08:29
lfcjohnUsing a calculator do help to optimize the HS, currently i'm using below calculator
https://repl.it/G1zu/3

Just input the value at left side then click the "Play" button to find how you should allocate the HS and how much improvement.

And ascend whenever you found it take too much time to advance a zone.

As now my each ascension take around 1 - 1.5 hours and reward me around 2e5 - 2.5e5 HS and i'll left my controller on overnight before i sleep to maximum the advance a bit more.
Posted by lfcjohn on 10 May 17 at 08:39
ReronI got a little worried when I finally bought Astraea and the achievement didn't pop but then I remembered that I had skipped hiring Dread Knight and Terra on that run - it popped when I hired those two such that I had all of them hired at once.
Posted by Reron on 12 May 17 at 13:43
lfcjohnI finally unlocked today, i reach zone 2270 with more than 5e159 to bought it. Ascend around 146 times. Using hybrid build and push my zone further after 1650 when idle build no longer instakill (without turn off my xbox for around 18 hours!!)
Posted by lfcjohn on 12 May 17 at 13:45
GYS GHOSTWhen I ascend, the hs that I gained increase dps?
Posted by GYS GHOST on 25 May 17 at 12:27
reforc3Yes a 10% per soul
Posted by reforc3 on 25 May 17 at 17:10
lfcjohnAnyone try if the update enforce you to unhire additional heroes or it still unlocked at Astrea? I saw there are still gamers unlock this achievement this 2 days after update published so wonder how will it implemented?
Posted by lfcjohn on 07 Jun 17 at 01:09
ChucklestyleThe developer stated (according to a post here on TA in the forums for this game) that hiring all heroes does in fact require all the new heroes and is now significantly harder.

I've got my 2nd xbox offline and not downloading the update, I think I'll grind it out there first.
Posted by Chucklestyle on 07 Jun 17 at 01:49
lfcjohnYes i read that comment however even you have the original version, once you go online to unlock achievement, you are forced to update the game which may still need to unlock all heroes (10 additional heroes)
Posted by lfcjohn on 07 Jun 17 at 02:33
Funky MonkeeThis achievement is next to impossible on console now. The developers need to change it back to the original requirements. This will now take years and is harder on console than pc and mobile because this game can only really be played actively on console, you cant play it for five minutes every now and then
Posted by Funky Monkee on 07 Jun 17 at 11:13
Evenger OstroIf you want to complete the game, give it a try and tell the devs on reddit they should think about the requirements. Other games did change requirements, so can Clicker Heroes if we can convince them https://www.reddit.com/r/ClickerHeroes/comments/6fsmlz/pleas...
Posted by Evenger Ostro on 07 Jun 17 at 12:20
GYS GHOST:0
Posted by GYS GHOST on 07 Jun 17 at 12:22
lfcjohnDirect quote developer's comment as below from above thread.

KnoxPL
We're discussing this internally. We haven't made a decision on whether it will change but we are taking the community's feedback into account.
Just a reminder to everyone to keep the discussion civil and constructive.
As now, it will require unlock all additional heroes (the last hero Madzi which require 1e8000) and need to go until zone 50,000+ now.

OP would you please update the solution
Posted by lfcjohn on 08 Jun 17 at 02:31
reforc3OK, I did the update on the guide about the additional heroes required, and a few modifications that I was missing from the comments.

As we know, the legit way to get this achievement is nearly in the impossible ground at this moment, hopefully the developers will save our souls. or at least decrease the price to a reasonable price, or increase the gold loot.
Posted by reforc3 on 08 Jun 17 at 23:59
troyoyI can confirm. I just unlocked the last hero there was before the update and did NOT get the achievement. I only had the last guy to unlock and was so close. I couldn't seem to pass about level 2100. This update is a major set back as I had a lot of ancients jacked up big time and this update just turned them way down. It now costs insane amounts of souls to get them even back up a tiny bit.
Posted by troyoy on 09 Jun 17 at 15:48
NamelessxDread
The Community is requesting the developers to change the requirements because of the new update and the actual grind required in the console edition is beyond what a regular player could ever achieve in his life.
Uh, then you have no idea how transcension works, it's completely doable. Outsiders make you ridiculously OP. It's no more a grind than getting Astraea would have been.
Posted by NamelessxDread on 09 Jun 17 at 21:21
reforc3If I spend all my day with the Xbox turned on, only with Clicker Heroes opened it might would be possible to unlock it ,

But It happens that I won't do that, never. :)


But i changed a bit that note, so it can be taken in both cases with no problems
Posted by reforc3 on 10 Jun 17 at 02:50
Chyld989FYI, the developers will be changing this to only require you to unlock all heroes through Wepwawet:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClickerHeroes/comments/6fsmlz/pleas...
Posted by Chyld989 on 10 Jun 17 at 05:47
NamelessxDreadHonestly though, it would only take a month or two to get Madzi, granted you know how to transcend at the right time and level your ancients correctly using calculator.
Posted by NamelessxDread on 12 Jun 17 at 16:41
ChooseMyFateDoes anyone have instructions on an outsiders active build? The one i found was putting points into Xyliqil which makes no sense.
Posted by ChooseMyFate on 14 Jun 17 at 04:13
lfcjohni use below one
http://alexbonjour.github.io/rules-of-thumb
Posted by lfcjohn on 14 Jun 17 at 06:22
lfcjohnhttps://www.reddit.com/r/ClickerHeroes/comments/6ha203/apolo...

Please note that developer state MS don't let them change the requirement so as now it still need to get Madzi to unlock unless something will change later.
Posted by lfcjohn on 14 Jun 17 at 23:53
ChooseMyFateThanks ifcjohn! However, I just checked. Once again they are putting points into Xyliqil for an active build. He gives bonuses when idle. I am never idle. Full active.
Posted by ChooseMyFate on 15 Jun 17 at 00:28
ChooseMyFateI guess what i'll do is just put the Xyliqil points into Ponyboy and follow the rest for the other outsiders.
Posted by ChooseMyFate on 15 Jun 17 at 00:31
lfcjohnThe idle ancient is much powerful after transcendence with Xyliqil, the best strategy after transcendence is idle / hybrid build.
Posted by lfcjohn on 15 Jun 17 at 02:35
ChooseMyFate@ifcjohn Even with 4 autoclickers and this build?

Juggernaut
Frags
Bhaal
Mammon
Dora
Mimzee
Atman
Solomon
Posted by ChooseMyFate on 15 Jun 17 at 02:59
lfcjohnI have 5 autoclickers and after the first ascension, i focus on idle ancient and after 3-4 transcendence i break through zone 3600 (for mobile version but it's now the same as console).
Posted by lfcjohn on 15 Jun 17 at 04:10
lfcjohnyou're welcome (it should be Lfc stand for Liverpool Football Club though :P)

if you have 4 autoclicker i'll suggest go for hybrid build. First go idle and put autoclicker on hero upgrade and buy all upgrade (move along the way down until your gilded heroes) then you can leave it until no more instakill then put all AC on the monster to gain for last batch of HS earned.
Posted by lfcjohn on 15 Jun 17 at 09:01
ReronConflicting info above about whether this did change or will change to only require Wep - if it did/does, Wep is pretty easy with transcendence.

I had already unlocked this before the patch but I still need to get to lvl 3600. My 1st transcend got me 36 AS and I got +10 for my 2nd. I might go for lvl 3600 on this one (I'm at 3300 now) but will probably just transcend again (with +7) and get it easily on the next one.

I can't say how hard it would be to get to Madzi since I'm still 5 heroes away which is really more like 8 since after Wep you jump back to earlier heroes before continuing with Tsuchi. It does look like it would be a painful grind on Xbox if you can't run it all day while you're at work or something like that so hopefully they'll change it if they haven't already.
Posted by Reron on 15 Jun 17 at 18:14
GameTagwastakenThere has some back and forth. As of today, it looks like yes, they can change it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClickerHeroes/comments/6ha203/apolo...

EDIT 6/15/2017 10:53AM PST:
We just had a recent discussion about this with Microsoft, apparently there was a miscommunication somewhere along the lines about the rules for changing achievements. We're going to be able to fix the achievement. Sorry everyone! (The following text is no longer true)
Posted by GameTagwastaken on 15 Jun 17 at 19:28
ChooseMyFateGood info thanks lfcjohn!
Posted by ChooseMyFate on 15 Jun 17 at 19:33
NamelessxDreadThey're going to change it back to Astraea again, according to reddit.
Posted by NamelessxDread on 20 Jun 17 at 14:34
XtowersNice! Someone let me know when they have updated the achievement by posting here hehe
Posted by Xtowers on 21 Jun 17 at 12:46
CasperTCSo.... there's a Dev post on reddit today saying that "up to and including Astraea" is all that's required? Anybody able to test? I'm not quite that far yet...
Posted by CasperTC on 21 Jun 17 at 23:34
NICKYG2X3Hi. Im about to unlock Astaea playing legit? But im pretty sure my friend already got to this hero and didnt get the achievment and i would expect other people to be surely ahead of me?
As i play it occasionally.

Regardless hes my next hero, which i may not get for another day or two but il let you no when i purchase him.
Posted by NICKYG2X3 on 22 Jun 17 at 00:10
reforc3Probably you can wait until you see a new update available, that would be the most wise thing to do.
Posted by reforc3 on 22 Jun 17 at 02:58
XtowersI just got an update today.
Posted by Xtowers on 22 Jun 17 at 05:48
NamelessxDreadThere was an update but I believe it was just to fix some bugs. I don't think the Astraea update is until the week of 27th.

@NICKYG2X3 Astraea is female, btw.
Posted by NamelessxDread on 22 Jun 17 at 15:47
Ilinduri got to 3600 today with wetwapet (or whatever he is called) and no all heroes achievement so we need to wait a bit more for the hotfix.
Posted by Ilindur on 22 Jun 17 at 18:45
lfcjohnAs stated above the update with Astrea to unlock all heroes should be arrive next week.

As i completed the game i wish it add more achievements as i still keep playing at iOS version.
Posted by lfcjohn on 23 Jun 17 at 01:17
GameTagwastakenNew update today and 4 people unlocked it. I can't confirm yet, but I suspect this is the update/hotfix we wanted.
Posted by GameTagwastaken on 24 Jun 17 at 00:18
NamelessxDreadI had Astraea unlocked and no achievement, maybe it triggers when you actually press "hire" and not just have her.
Posted by NamelessxDread on 24 Jun 17 at 01:23
NamelessxDreadYeah, I think my mistake was not hiring Cid, since I play idle. It unlocked though.
Posted by NamelessxDread on 24 Jun 17 at 03:02
ChooseMyFateThe patch is live as of today. I just hired ASTRAEA and it unlocked! Update this solution! smile

They also changed the description to "Hire all ORIGINAL heroes".
Posted by ChooseMyFate on 24 Jun 17 at 05:49
KriSpy CharMZIf you have all heroes unlocked just put an upgrade into any hero. You'll get the achievement shortly after.
Posted by KriSpy CharMZ on 24 Jun 17 at 11:54
reforc3I updated the requirement in the guide thanks for keep track of the changes on the game
Posted by reforc3 on 24 Jun 17 at 22:00
NICKYG2X3im still trying to unlock her lol 1 character away . if it unlocks il be super happy - and just need to get to 3600 for the 1000g. currently level 2000 lets go

EDIT ok so my friend got ASTRAE and didnt get the achievement?
Posted by NICKYG2X3 on 27 Jun 17 at 22:33
lankyjustinit unlocked for me today. happy days. will see what new achievements they add in the future. suspect it will be for all heroes at some point.
Posted by lankyjustin on 28 Jun 17 at 10:31
mikeXplosionUnlocked today when I bought Astraea. Says "The Original Heroes" now? Maybe they fixed it.
Posted by mikeXplosion on 29 Jun 17 at 22:02
BeastMode Eagleunlocked for me
Posted by BeastMode Eagle on 03 Jul 17 at 20:21
NICKYG2X3I can also confirm this unlocked for me on ASTRAEA - dance 03/07/17 July
Posted by NICKYG2X3 on 03 Jul 17 at 20:41
reforc3I forgot to remove the note about wepwawet and nobody noticed or mentioned before, probably a few negs when there because that.

I'll go trough the guide during this week and some tips over the comments to rewritte some basis parts of the solution and make it more friendly.

I guess I will play the game and see how much progress i got from the offline grind now
Posted by reforc3 on 03 Jul 17 at 20:56
AromaticTube824Attention: reforc3, I don't know if it's worth the effort to you but you may want consider another small update regarding the in-game store now that AutoClickers are available. I couldn't live without them now. To paraphrase the NRA, "They can have my AutoClickers when the pry them from cold, dead controller!"
Posted by AromaticTube824 on 10 Jul 17 at 01:56
reforc3I'll check, thanks
Posted by reforc3 on 10 Jul 17 at 05:19
oscarolimThis seems to be bugged for me. Unlocked Astrea (actually she is currently level 950) and still didn't unlock the achievement for me.

EDIT: After purchasing at least one level on every hero before Astrea, the achievement unlocked for me.
Posted by oscarolim on 09 Aug 17 at 05:39
LONGSTONIm past Astrea, Im on Moloch and no achievement unlocked yet!!! I have at least a 1,000 of every hero.... cry
Posted by LONGSTON on 14 Sep 17 at 09:35
Andy2boyzI hired Astraea and thought that the achievement was glitched when it didn't unlock. I then realised that on my current ascension I hadn't hired all heroes having skipped some weak ones along the way, I went back and hired them all and the achievement popped right away. Hope this helps anyone that is thinking they are glitched.
Posted by Andy2boyz on 02 Feb 18 at 18:34
Mister BudsI have hired every hero, Cid through Astrea, and the achievement has not unlocked. I have put additional levels on all the heroes, hard reset my console, and recovered my gamertag. Still can't get the achievement to unlock.

Also, the description of the achievement on Xbox Live says "unlock all original heroes" which sounds like you don't even have to purchase them. But still, after purchasing all of them I can't get the achievement to unlock.

Anyone else experience this or know how to fix it?
Posted by Mister Buds on 28 Oct 19 at 01:24
ChooseMyFate@Mister Did you purchase even the crappy ones? Looking at the comments you have to put at least one level into the weak ones.
Posted by ChooseMyFate on 28 Oct 19 at 01:51
Mister BudsYeah, just saw on my feed that it unlocked now. I think it was XBL issues due to the new console update. I was going to transcend after finally buying all the heroes and seriously didn't want to slog through another ascension or wait until I got back to this point.
Posted by Mister Buds on 28 Oct 19 at 02:44
ChooseMyFate@mister congrats man!
Posted by ChooseMyFate on 28 Oct 19 at 02:45