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Seriously POP!

Defeat 100,000 pins, win 1000 Versus Battles, reach highest Versus League and clear 1000 Horde Waves

Seriously POP!-8.6
2 guidesOnline Game ModeSingle PlayerCooperativeVersusCumulative +Online SkillTime Consuming
AbsoIuteZero xAbsoIuteZero x619,816
26 Aug 2019 12 Sep 2019
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This achievement will be a long, long grind so here is what to expect regarding this:

100,000 pins: Each game of versus at 4.0 average power cost I was using about 25 pins per match. Note, that multiple character pins do count as defeating multiple pins (thanks to ChrisD0811 for the confirmation. Although the achievement states to defeat pins, it will roughly be about the same as what you play so for raw numbers, we will go with 25-30/match ymmv. For Horde, it is a little different because of two things: 1. what percent of the horde you kill vs your partner and 2. what type thumper you use. So far I have had 50% 2 wave thumpers and 50% 3 wave thumpers. Maybe I am not high enough level but those are the only two I have seen (Bronze League level 10). For this guide we will use a 2.5 wave average which equates to about 30-40 pins defeated per match which is about 12-20 pins per wave (we will use 20 to be optimistic) but once again ymmv. Since you have to win 1000 versus matches and clear 1000 horde waves you are looking at:

1000 x 30 = 30,000 for wins
1000 x 20 = 20,000 for cleared waves

Assuming a 80% wave clear rate and a 50% win rate:

1000 x 30 = 30,000 for losses
200 x 20 = 4,000 for uncleared waves

This totals to be about 84,000 pins so there is still a little ways to go so if by now you have not reached it just continue playing as you see fit.

Edit: Also, you will get more pins than the suggested above because wretches, snub soldiers, lancer crew, gnasher gang, etc count as multiple enemies. This will add probably close to 5-10 (we will use 8 as an average) more each match than the above suggestions so:

2000 games at 8 more pins =16,000.

Coincidentally, that 84,000 and 16,000 totals the 100,000 needed.

The next phase of this will be reaching Gold in versus. This will be a pain, because you cannot just grind this out, you actually have to be very skilled at the game. Gold league requires 2400 cogs and once you hit Bronze you will lose roughly about the same amount of cogs as if you were to win. This means you will have to win ~25 more games than you lose (starting at Bronze) to reach this league. Each season (so far) looks like they will last over a month, so there is plenty of time to reach it if you are persistent and skilled. Note that if you are in a Bronze or higher league you will not go below 1599 cogs once the season resets, so it will not be a complete loss.

Edit: Keep in mind that you will possibly have to drop serious cash to reach this league. I am having trouble getting to Silver league and I spent $15 (Luckily I had some google play money) and have hit a plateau. Also, over time the f2p people will start to cap out their pins so as long as you are persistent you will eventually be high enough ranked to perhaps reach this league. Who knows, maybe TC will adjust the cogs needed each season. We will find out end of September.

You can track this by going to Missions -> Achievements -> Seriously POP! at the very bottom.

You can track the versus matches won by going to your player profile and looking under your statistics to see how many matches you have won.
You can see if you have reached the highest league by the League Legend achievement.
Horde waves cleared can only be tracked up to 500 by the Endless Summer achievement.
As of now there is no separate way to track the defeated pins count except for the Seriously POP! achievement tracker in game.

I would appreciate comments that show what builds you are having success with. I know that depending on your level some pins will be better than others, but right now this is what I am running with their level beside them:

Dom - 4
Grinder - 3
Reyna - 4
Old Man Marcus - 1
Marcus - 3
Ink Grenade - 9
Gnasher Gang - 5 (I swap this out occasionally maybe for Kait, JD, or Longshot)
Snub Soldiers - 10 (I swap these out often for something else to try out)

EDIT Sep 12, 2019: Almost all pins have been either nerfed or buffed so this loadout is not the best at the current state of the game. I am experimenting to find out the best combination for the new pin stats.

Hopefully this guide gives you a little insight so please leave me a comment for something that would be beneficial to add to this solution. Good Luck!!!
AbsoIuteZero xAlso, if people are finding different numbers for pins defeated per match, I will update this guide based on a consensus.
Posted by AbsoIuteZero x on 26 Aug 19 at 19:06
Hect0rloI think it's fair to mention that obtaining this achievement is nearly impossible without real money.
Posted by Hect0rlo on 26 Aug 19 at 20:34
The SCHWARTZ 00^ yes, but only for reaching Gold league. The others can be done over time. But as of right now, you won't even sniff the Silver league without dropping some serious cash.
Posted by The SCHWARTZ 00 on 27 Aug 19 at 00:00
Snitty 1The pins defeated will be closer to the wins than you've calculated, don't forget that you also get them in the matches you lose and draw as well.
Posted by Snitty 1 on 27 Aug 19 at 01:32
AbsoIuteZero x@Snitty 1, I will update the solution based on your response. Good Catch!
Posted by AbsoIuteZero x on 27 Aug 19 at 16:03
ChrisD0811Pins for each individual unit do in fact count. Just confirmed it by sitting still a whole match and counting. Twice. First guy used an emergence hole and all the wretches that spawned counted individually, and the second guy used a seeder and spawned two different groups of four Gears soldiers (which made it very easy to count off kills as there were no wretches from eholes to muck things up). It even counted the 3 soldiers I killed of the group of 4 (as one was alive at match end). So it'll be considerably faster than your calculations suggest.
Posted by ChrisD0811 on 27 Aug 19 at 22:03
II Pac y ITo be honest the killing things shouldn't be a problem for the f2p players. The make or break it for this one is the league requirement. Also I assume getting the money achievement is probably far more time consuming.
Posted by II Pac y I on 28 Aug 19 at 12:40
wizzardSSPresumably hitting the gold league becomes easier once you level up pins (as you become stronger)? So, while we're all grinding at the start of the game, once you max out your pins you'll find it easier to get to gold?

Of course, at the beginning there will be other players also racing to max out pins (dropping cash to do so), but you can grind to full power and it will be easier perhaps in the next season as everyone starts to hit max pin level.
Posted by wizzardSS on 28 Aug 19 at 12:42
AdamJLinkDoes anybody know if you don't log into your xbox account does it still track ur achievement progress internally? lets say if i played a 1000 matches, when i log in will it confirm i did or will it reset me to zero and i will have to play the 1000 while logged in. Im not sure if i want this on my card that's why I'm asking. The game is very clearly pay to win. lol
Posted by AdamJLink on 29 Aug 19 at 19:39
thepack1221Cool guide - thank you!! I will say this, I reached silver league(am level 10) and the first guy I played against was a level 16!!! I’m hoping the f2p players catch up to this league within the next 30 days because I fear the worst: TC adding the onyx and diamond rank to future seasons.
Posted by thepack1221 on 30 Aug 19 at 19:46
CommanderCHAlso you may want to mention that Horde counts towards Versus so for every completed Horde match you get one win in versus.
Posted by CommanderCH on 31 Aug 19 at 15:12
Coadster1 x360a^ That's not true. You can check your wins by clicking on your profile. I have 180, but I've done at least 850 Horde waves. No idea on pins, but I have 34k/102k points for Seriously Pop, it would be higher if that's the case.
Posted by Coadster1 x360a on 31 Aug 19 at 21:52
lI KyIo Ren IlSo I’m guessing you just have to make it to gold rank once and not be gold when you fulfill the rest of the requirements?
Posted by lI KyIo Ren Il on 02 Sep 19 at 14:52
Coadster1 x360a^ No one knows for certain, but that's the idea. Makes much more sense, I think as long as you have the highest league achievement you should be good. Some of us have tried reaching out on their Twitter but have gotten no response to this question. I guess we'll find out soon enough!
Posted by Coadster1 x360a on 02 Sep 19 at 17:13
KanchanaburiThank you for the pin set up. I was loosing 4/5 matches and once i changed to this without the snubs because mine wheren't good enough, I am now winning 4/5 matches. huge difference. i thought snipers were all that, but it turns out they aren't.
Posted by Kanchanaburi on 06 Sep 19 at 00:40
Lambent LailI can confirm you do NOT have to currently be in Gold Arena to pop this achievement. I had deranked all the way down to Arena 1 when it popped.
Posted by Lambent Lail on 08 Sep 19 at 22:27
The SCHWARTZ 00This doesn't all have to be done in one season, right? The season ends in 7 days and I just hit Gold but Im waaaay behind in wins and Horde waves.
Posted by The SCHWARTZ 00 on 23 Sep 19 at 00:50
JuicyjamsThis is the crew i made it with recently and it was aweful. There are bot teams here that will hold you and push you back in certain levels until you realign your team or level them up. You will catch on to which are real and not if you've been playing a while. So the crew I have that is damn near unstoppable currently is this -
reyna Diaz level 4,
kait Diaz level 6,
Drone division level 10,
Savage grenader level 11,
Locust drone level 14
Hammer of dawn level 3,
Snubb soldiers level 12,
Sentinel level 9.
My ultimate has always been the seeder. Level 7.

The max when ingot this was 2800. It was horrible getting there. Absolutely the worst. As soon as I got there everything was a breeze I win with no trouble now. Its painful and expensive to do. If your not going to pay I wouldn't even think about completing this... ever.
Posted by Juicyjams on 29 Oct 19 at 02:48